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cmiles8•about 3 hours ago
The whole thing is a tragedy. Nobody wants to see a situation end like this.

There are other likely victims here too though including those who were passed over for roles or promotions based on the alleged false claims, exaggerations and plagiarism. Those are harder to identify and quantify but still a very real thing that has deep impact on people’s lives.

zamadatix•about 3 hours ago
A tragedy all around. Most obviously for Jason Arday, who, regardless of which interpretations of everything else one takes, saw this end as the only way out of a high profile media situation.
sampo•about 3 hours ago
When one's whole career and self-image has been based in academia and then the academic career ends, it can easily give a feeling of failure and worthlessness, even in the most normal circumstances.

I couldn't find statistics about postdocs or tenure-track professors, but this meta-study on PhD students and medical residents gives a suicide attempt rate of 0.8%.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002239562...

cmiles8•about 2 hours ago
Academia is brutal, but let’s not conflate legitimate struggles in an academic career with being caught allegedly just making up a whole bunch of stuff
zaik•about 2 hours ago
From the same article:

> The overall prevalence of SA [suicide attempts] in our aggregate sample was .8%. These figures approached the prevalence of SA in Americans aged 18–39 (1.0%) and in the general population of adults over 18 (.6%).

gizajob•about 2 hours ago
Academia isn’t the criminal justice system though, if you have, for example, cheated on your doctorate you can hold your hands up and admit it and do another doctorate.
gillesjacobs•about 2 hours ago
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!” — Walter Scott, Marmion (1808)
hyperhello•about 3 hours ago
I'm wondering just how falsifiable a claim of plagiarism is in the field of sociology.
gizajob•about 3 hours ago
The issue is that the claims of sociology struggle with falsifiability, or at least have a tendency to create positions which don’t admit refutation.

I don’t wish this poor man ill, and a huge mess has been created at every level it seems, all around him. Having read some of his contentious thesis the issue that arose for me, beyond the plaigarism question, was that it was generally hyperbolic and at points, word salad, unable to present a target that could be refuted or argued against. Zero clue what Cambridge were doing with and to this guy, or what the standards are for appointing people and critiquing their work if it’s feeding a prevailing narrative. I know John Moores, who awarded his PhD is far from rigorous and I know from experience that there is almost nothing that would have stopped them awarding him the doctorate once the work was complete, regardless whether it was plagiarised or didn’t stand up to scrutiny from anywhere outside of his small angle on sociological discourse. This all points to him being a symptom of an extremely widespread and serious issue that has arisen within British academia, not a cause of anything major.

I wouldn’t have wished him dead though, this is pretty tragic that the intense scrutiny over what should be a very niche and minor academic issue inside a university got blown up into front page news. He didn’t deserve or warrant that kind of scrutiny either, so has clearly completely collapsed from it, because it would be hard for anyone to take.

tptacek•about 2 hours ago
Just a note that plagiarism wasn't the extent of the alleged misconduct. Large parts of his biography were in question as well. A recovery of his reputation or a long-term future as a public thinker, let alone an academic, was probably not even a remote possibility. The stress of dealing with that situation had to have been incredible.
srean•about 3 hours ago
https://ncofnas.com/p/dei-fraud-and-cover-up-at-cambridge

Reams of lifted passages look quite obvious.

srean•about 3 hours ago
I think it was a case of narcissistic collapse.

https://www.simplypsychology.com/articles/narcissistic-colla...

Going by the astonishing tall tales he spread about himself, I would be surprised if it wasn't.

The following video is a psychologist's take, well, a YouTube psychologist's take on some of his many implausible, superhuman and grandiose claims that include:

Running 30 marathons in 35 days, notably running the final nine marathons with a fracture.

To have completed 600 miles of running in just six days.

Raised over ÂŁ5.5 million ($7.4 million) for charity.

(Time) travelling to Brazil on a relief mission where he personally installed water pumps for local populations as part of a program that shut down before he was born.

https://youtu.be/-RxoYfCiwX0

JMiao•about 2 hours ago
cool guess! idk about jason arday, but that dude in the first link is strange and off putting. too much stink face, and the way he frames the subject with the blurry photos and loony screenshots feels like bullying.
JMiao•17 minutes ago
commenter changed their comment and /s blew right by
worik•about 2 hours ago
I have been following this in English news. It is terribly sad.

The University of Cambridge is largely to blame for letting this troubled person dig himself in so deep.

His astounding claims were astonishing and easily falsifiable. Journalists had no such trouble.

They raised him up then when he got too hot cast him down.

He was a fantasist, he deserves some blame, but it was Cambridge with the power, and irresponsible hubris

RIP