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hn_submit•40 minutes ago
These tests are more or less useless because there's no treatment anyway so knowing about it a long time in advance will not lead to any substantial gain. Even slowing the disease isn't within the realm of today's technology. Today's pharmaceutical companies are close to quacks as far as Alzheimer is concerned. We know next to nothing about its origins or even how the disease progresses.

The only thing you gain is giving people more time to worry and despair.

CoastalCoder•6 minutes ago
I think I'd want to know.

It would affect my financial and estate planning, and how I'd like to navigate the disease's progression.

alex43578•22 minutes ago
Earlier diagnosis, or at least suspected diagnosis, could make a difference in studying progression, origin, etc.

Imagine the test is 100% accurate: if you gave it to a group of people, you could then try to make interventions earlier, capture more data about lifestyle before symptoms, etc.

ggm•about 3 hours ago
Do we yet have any good avoidance or mitigation regimes, be they drug or otherwise for people who show positive on a test like this? The alternative is that it lets you put things in place for when you lose agency.

Good as in scientifically proven. Not speculative fantasy.

simonask•about 2 hours ago
We don’t currently have any data that shows any clear way to halt or slow Alzheimer’s.

As someone with family affected by this disease, it’s a very personal choice whether you want to know or not, but I wish people understood that there are many things you can do with it, particularly for those who will be there for you if/when it hits.

Taking care of a loved one with this disease is extremely hard, and it’s even harder when they haven’t had any chance to prepare for this eventuality. Stuff like written records of your history (health, life, etc.), clear powers of attorney, and so on.

It also makes things much easier for healthcare professionals.

A_D_E_P_T•about 1 hour ago
The most famous drug is donepezil (Aricept). This is very weakly effective on the whole. In most Alzheimer's sufferers, there is no effect. But some people respond well to it: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2328349

Galantamine, which is mechanistically similar, is another option. Interestingly, it's a natural product, which you can extract from the common snowdrop flower, galanthus nivalis, and many other plants.

Benzgalantamine, a galantamine prodrug, was approved in 2024. This has been, like many recent FDA approvals, somewhat controversial: https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2026/02/26/bmjebm-2025-114...

These drugs are, at best, stopgaps. There are no real mitigation regimes.

helsinkiandrew•about 3 hours ago
The article doesn't explicitly say but presumably you can start taking the anti-amyloid drugs to slow down the progression immediately, there's also lifestyle changes that can be made (most of those would likely benefit most people)

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/combination-he...

> Early detection of Alzheimer’s disease is important since the first treatments capable of slowing the progression of the neurodegenerative disease recently became available to patients, and these drugs are more effective when started sooner rather than later.

rgmerk•about 2 hours ago
Not a doctor or medical scientist, but my understanding is a) the effectiveness of those anti-amyloid drugs as a preventative tool is unclear, and b) they have a pretty scary safety profile.

Clearly the goal is to be able to prevent the disease from progressing or slow it significantly, but are we really there yet even if we have a test?

apothegm•about 1 hour ago
As someone with a family member taking one of the newest drugs, I can attest that it does seem to meaningfully slow progression — from rapid decline nearly to a halt in my loved one’s case.

The risk of dangerous side effects seems to be much higher for those with APOE4 — before approving the treatment they required among other things a genetic test ruling that out. (There are several other genetic variants that predispose to Alzheimer’s, fwiw.) We were lucky and saw none of the concerning side effects.

Are we “there” yet? Where’s there?

The prognosis after this treatment is a massive improvement over what it would have been at this stage of progression if it had been reached even 5 years ago.

If you can detect the disease even earlier and halt progress at a point where you retain more cognitive function, that’s a huge win — and gives you time to wait it out a bit longer in hope that we’re able to develop a treatment that doesn’t just pause but can reverse progression.

Yeah, I doubt we’re ready yet to administer these drugs to people who are asymptomatic (not to mention how pricey they currently are). But for someone who likely has the genes for it, just _knowing_ would in some ways be a relief.

brandonb•about 3 hours ago
This Alzheimer's blood test, PrecivityAD2, is based on the p-tau217 biomarker.

In one recent study, people very high p-tau217 had a 38% chance of progressing to cognitive impairment within 5 years vs 12% for those with low levels. The current tests cost about $200-300, so they're not unreasonable as a screening test. PrecivityAD2 looks to be priced around $1,400-$1,500 so at that price, this specific test likely only makes sense for people with established disease.

vintermann•about 3 hours ago
That sounds pretty expensive for me for a test with that low accuracy, especially when there's not much you can do different if it comes back high vs. coming back low.
brandonb•about 1 hour ago
Agreed that we can't do as much as we'd like. There are some general health things that are believed to prevent cognitive decline, such as managing cholesterol, HbA1c, blood pressure, sleep apnea, etc. One phrase I've heard is that cholesterol at age 50 predicts cognitive health at age 70.

But hopefully we'll start to have more options and wider approvals for things like anti-amyloid drugs.

pokot0•about 1 hour ago
if cholesterol predicted future cognitive health we wouldn’t need dedicated tests, do we?
simmerup•about 2 hours ago
I guess you can start spending your retirement money faster
FL33TW00D•about 1 hour ago
Seems like a no brainer for hetero/homozygous APOE4 folks.
vogu66•about 2 hours ago
do you have the reference for that one? I'd be interested in reading it.
brandonb•about 2 hours ago