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But this feels like a mashup of the Twitter snowclone "I'm the guy who was in charge of sending the HBO email / writing the GCP AI announcement / etc" with the classic goes-on-too-long Reddit bit. I know, I sound like a guy ranting about a satirical piece but it just sounds like a Reddit copypasta snowclone. And not because of it, I'm sure, but because that style is pervasive.
Ah well, it's my fault for ruining my brain on reams of Reddit content. Mostly I'm just commenting to see if anyone else has burned their neurons on garbage like I have (DAE? See, the reddit is everywhere).
The author of the 404 article that broke this story (about "rare books" being destroyed by AI model companies) was interviewed by NPR. The books, so far as anyone knows, turn out to be manuals for old office equipment or vanity press material. They are indeed rare, but they're rare for the same reason my 11th grade history papers are rare: nobody cares about them.
Meanwhile: the book industry destroys books by the millions every week. Destruction is part of the natural lifecycle of a book. Books are not generally preserved. If you box up all the books you find in your parent's attic and haul them to your local library --- if they accept donations at all; many don't, and will tell you to take them to thrift stores --- the majority of those books will also end up in a dumpster.
Gutenberg Australia has all of Orwell online for download, legally:
https://gutenberg.net.au/plusfifty-n-z.html#orwell
Might I suggest that any copyright domain where these texts can be freely offered receive them as a secondary recipient?
Do this quietly.
Edit: "and sometimes a handwritten note from 1894 that I don’t bother to read"
From this time, there is no excuse. Preserve these digitally, as you found them, for the public good.
Alternate take: was the intellectual murder of this author required to feed your neural network? Do you realize how awful this looks?
To be legal: request an AI in Australia if you want it to know about Orwell.
Edit: Claude says: “Worth flagging: this is satire, not a real employee. It’s a McSweeney’s humor piece by Jack Loftus — the “guy who destroys antique books” is a fictional voice piece, not a real Anthropic person giving an interview.”
I could see companies wanting to try to fit their activities into the same contours that the court approved there, since they could then argue that they should be just as protected as the defendant in that case was (that is, it may have inadvertently established a set of practices that companies would like to copy). However, it doesn't seem to me that the court concluded that destroying books was necessarily required (in particular because the contrary scenario wasn't examined there). That is, the court felt that destroying scanned books made the fair use argument stronger, but didn't say, as far as I know, that the fair use argument would necessarily fail without it.
But indeed, I guess it might take a lot for a company to decide to create a different and untested fact pattern and then defend it from scratch in new litigation.
I suppose to the author then, that aesthetic, social or historical preservation reasons, nostalgia etc. and other non-economic perspectives should also be ignored?
If someone scanned and reproduced the Mona Lisa, and then destroyed the original, do you think most people would be ok with "it's just an inventory problem"?
Can't say I'm on board with that.