Vinix – A modern operating system written in V

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novacrazy•about 3 hours ago

How this scam language gained traction is beyond me.

orsenthil•about 2 hours ago

The book about the language was published by packt, and I had my eyebrows raised. I want to give a benefit of doubt tough and learn more.

threethirtytwo•11 minutes ago

Well tbh I don't care about all the PR surrounding the language. Has anyone used it in it's current state? Is it good? Please be objective.

ape4•about 3 hours ago

This seems to be the language's main page https://vlang.io/

ecto•about 3 hours ago

How can a language be a scam?

novacrazy•about 2 hours ago

The first release was just Go's parser ripped out and bolted onto a barebones first year of college level compiler, and touted as "safer than Rust", "compiles in milliseconds", etc. but didn't even have real type-checking at the time, nor did it free memory, and many other basic functionality. Furthermore, I vividly remember the author's Patreon advertised at the top of the page back then, and for a while he raked in a couple thousand dollars a month for it.

However, over the years some actually talented people (and nowadays probably LLMs) have somehow sort of fixed most of the biggest warts, but it's still nowhere near what it advertised in that first release.

0x457•12 minutes ago

Can't have use-after-free errors if you never free.

giancarlostoro•about 2 hours ago

What's wild is I was looking at the language's home page again, and looking to find their GitHub, the first GitHub link I noticed, is the GitHub sponsors link.

I don't mind supporting a project like this, but this is a bit excessive.

Was it really Go's parser? That wouldn't surprise me, but also that kind of makes sense to me why it looked a bit 'familiar' in terms of syntax.

It's definitely been "alpha" tier for a while, which it doesnt help that the developer doesn't outline any sort of stability that I can recall (back then at least) which imho if you're publishing a language, you should let the reader know.

torstenvl•about 2 hours ago

Can you explain what you mean by this? They haven't had a first release yet. They're still in beta.

morpheos137•about 2 hours ago

Lol this is interesting. If you want to make money you can "invent" a language. With LLMs you could probably make it pretty decent too.

MisterTea•about 2 hours ago

I have no opinion on the subject but I have found this to be an interesting dive into the supposed controversy: https://justinas.org/the-bizarre-world-of-v

agumonkey•28 minutes ago

It was impossible to verify the "earth shattering claims" of the designer/users early on, and they would be very very emotional every time you just question the metrics. At one point there was a chart that was basically "for a given task, every compiler on earth: 1min, us: 0.1sec"

And whenever you poke you found it seemed to be comparing apple and oranges and conversations often ended in v users crying because "this is a new project !"

(yet, the crowd kept growing and they seemed to have produced larger and larger projects with this thing)

embedding-shape•about 2 hours ago

For reference, for the ones who aren't aware of the constant drama that seems to follow V: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... (open up almost any discussion and see the flood of similar messages).

I never paid enough attention to figure out if the drama is justified or not (and don't really care either, please don't try to convince me to care either, don't shoot the messenger).

iamnothere•10 minutes ago

There’s good kinds of drama (competent dev forcefully rejects bad ideas) and bad kinds of drama (activist/corporate takeovers, subpar dev doubles down on mistakes, etc), but I haven’t been following it, so I have no idea which one this is.

EGreg•about 2 hours ago

I don't know.

But I just released a language called U, and I was surprised to see this one.

https://ulanguage.org

cestith•19 minutes ago

When compiling to C, does it use MISRA C or some other accepted standard for how to write secure and reliable C?

xvilka•about 1 hour ago

Just like V but without sharp edges?

netbioserror•about 1 hour ago

I've only dipped my toe in, but it compiles fast code and works. Can't argue with results.

IshKebab•about 2 hours ago

Yeah it seems to be following the No Man's Sky playbook.

phoe-krk•about 2 hours ago

I enjoy the screenshot showing Calculator taking 617 MB of RAM. It feels very modern indeed.

bflesch•about 2 hours ago

You have an amazing eye for details. Might be the "wine calculator" from the desktop.

bluesounddirect•about 1 hour ago

Its and odd name choice and very close to venix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venix

zem•31 minutes ago

it seems like a natural name choice to me - "v + unix"

foul•about 3 hours ago

How are things going with V btw? In the past i've seen some bad press about this programming language.

It was nice to use when I tried to dabble with it.

Matl•about 1 hour ago

My understanding:

- The bad press was because the initial public release on GitHub did not implement most of the things seemed like they're implemented, (Rust like memory safety etc.)

- Over time it actually saw contributions from a lot of people and is kind of decent now, be it not as polished as Go, Rust, D etc.

- It is super easy to use, so kind of attracts an audience.

WD-42•34 minutes ago

First time I heard about V was because of the Volt desktop chat app: https://volt-app.com/ which seemed attractive at the time. Turns out it was completely closed source and read secrets from local browser's cookie storage without any kind of warning. I've never nope'd out of a program so fast.

There are others in this comment section claiming this language is scam. Seems about right. The entire Vinix page is slop, too.

christophilus•about 2 hours ago

Huh. Pretty cool. I haven't looked at vnix in a while, and it's been almost as long since I looked at V. It had a lot of controversy early on. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has tried it recently to find out if they ever ended up delivering on their promises.

nosrep•40 minutes ago

huh, that "minecraft" screenshot is pretty clearly minetest/luanti. the vinix repo has some code at least attempting to do real Minecraft, but does it actually work?

13415•16 minutes ago

I don't use it yet but V has pretty much all properties I want from a programming language. I'll check out Vinix, too. I'm almost certain I'll program a significant project in V some time when it has matured a bit more. The fact that users of languages I find useless hate it is also a big plus.

codethief•about 2 hours ago

> QEMU uses macOS hardware virtualization for the ARM64 desktop.

Huh, since when does QEMU support hardware virtualization on Apple Silicon? To the best of my knowledge, among all the VM managers available on macOS (VMware, Parallels, VirtualBox, …) only UTM currently supports hardware virtualization and that's through the Apple Virtualization backend, not through QEMU.

vluft•about 1 hour ago

HVF was added quite some time ago afaik.

bflesch•about 2 hours ago

It looks nice. How much vibecoding does it contain? Can we trust these claims?