Meta’s Muse has a serious 0-day

ppavel_lishin about 3 hours ago 31 commentsRead Article on arstechnica.com

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gavinray•about 1 hour ago

The "zero day" is something they call a "ClickFix Attack"

Upon Googling "ClickFix":

  > "A ClickFix attack is a social engineering technique... It typically compromises devices by manipulating victims into copying and pasting malicious commands directly into system-level tools"

I'm sorry, that's not a zero-day, that's idiocy that's as old as time.

failbuffer•about 1 hour ago

We filed a bug report but the original maintainer seems to have dropped offline. The community's had some success in correcting bugs with low-level hacking, but it's hard to make progress without the source code.

theultdev•29 minutes ago

words don't seem to mean anything anymore.

clickbait headline should be changed, not a 0-day.

willtemperley•about 3 hours ago

Who in their right mind would install a Meta AI with near admin privileges?

josefresco•about 1 hour ago

"Normies" aka the average user on Meta. They have no concept of what "admin privileges" means and don't really care. I still have a hard time convincing my clients to use secure passwords. I have clients who were phished for substantial amounts of money and STILL don't implement proper security measures.

sandeepkd•about 2 hours ago

Almost everyone who is struggling with AI insecurity and is afraid of being left behind

shimman•about 1 hour ago

No, most workers don't really say this in surveys and polling. They tend to hate LLM tools because it makes their jobs worse, nothing about being left behind.

The only people pushing the "left behind" narrative is SV + SF + VC since their previous narratives have failed to persuade the public (thank fuck).

dgellow•about 1 hour ago

I’m pretty sure you misread the comment you responded to

imagetic•about 2 hours ago

We all fear the true answer to that question.

apazzolini•about 1 hour ago

> Who in their right mind would install a Meta AI

I fixed it for ya

john_strinlai•about 2 hours ago

most people don't know or care what "admin privileges" even means, or why they wouldn't want ai to have them

snapcaster•about 2 hours ago

almost every normal person

jsbisviewtiful•about 2 hours ago

Normally I’m not one to blame the victims but, uh, yeah who in the world is dumb enough to trust Meta at this point?

dgellow•about 1 hour ago

Billions of people

jsbisviewtiful•23 minutes ago

Sad, yet true

sick_of_slop•about 2 hours ago

“They trust me, dumb fucks”.

alex1138•about 1 hour ago

And before this gets flagged or downvoted or "he was young" or "he was joking" or "he was making a point: he was saying 'I could be anyone', not that he can't be trusted" answer me what other tech people say this, ever, along with all the other charges ("I'm going to fuck them [the Winklevoss twins] in the ear", "You can be unethical and legal and that's how i live my life haha", hacking Crimson reporters, and that's just at Harvard, let alone when Facebook became available to the public

matroxmemories•about 1 hour ago

Honestly, a lot of people start using this line of humor when their peers do. Add in that he was young, and this was before people’s private messages being released easily to the masses was common, Im not really surprised.

alex1138•33 minutes ago

Yeah - I just went from +1 to -2

It is clear some of you are brigading. And I don't care if my comment 'breaks site rules'. It happens a lot here. I know you're from industry and you're brigading to protect your industry

yalok•about 2 hours ago

> macOS has long provided a simple means for apps to handle dictation and transcription in processes that stay securely on the device

Not sure these guys realize that the quality and latency of those Apple services in MacOS is way lower than SOTA and not too many people use them because of that…

sippingabonedry•about 2 hours ago

Maybe they should have spent the money used to buy its stupid name from a band on additional testing instead.

axus•about 2 hours ago

Did the band end up getting money for that?

echelon•about 1 hour ago

Presumably. They changed their handle on non-Meta social networks to match at around the same time as the Meta handle change.

il•about 1 hour ago

How is this a serious zero day if it requires local code execution to run?

peri-cl•about 2 hours ago

I'm confused what the vulnerability is. Does macOS have some specific function for protecting key material, that it's unexpected that if you execute user-privileged code locally, outside of a sandbox, it gets full read access?

voxic11•about 2 hours ago

Yeah macOS security is capability based rather than purely identity based. So if you don't pass the required entitlements to an application then it cannot do stuff like read from the system keychain even if its running as your user.

adamsb6•about 1 hour ago

Is 12 hours to deliver a local privilege escalation fix not a good response time?

SoftTalker•about 2 hours ago

A zero day? Of course it does. It likely has many. Given the history of software, it's impossible to think it wouldn't.

tcdent•about 2 hours ago

You would think a website dedicated to talking about software engineering would agree with this sentiment wholeheartedly.

dgellow•about 1 hour ago

A zero day generally means a vulnerability and associated exploit have been identified and the vendor didn’t yet provide a patch. It doesn’t just mean “there is a vulnerability”. To say that every software has vulnerabilities is just not a useful comment

Caracas288•8 minutes ago

The difference between

"We found aliens!"

And

"Aliens are out there!"