Italo Calvino: A traveller in a world of uncertainty

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kelseyfrog•2 days ago

If on a Winter’s Night a Traveller gives the reader the impression that there must be a system at play and gives up some of its secrets easily. However, there remains a persistent feeling, after reading each section, that there are other connections - threads of deliberate meaning - between them all that slip through your fingers as you desperately try to clutch more and more fragments passing by.

It's one of my favorite books precisely because it generates this feeling and led me to Perec's Life: A User's Manual among other fantastic works.

_aavaa_•2 days ago

You will likely enjoy this discussion of Calvino’s work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI16Txc7x1s

kelseyfrog•2 days ago

Definitely! That's what kicked off my interest :)

dang•2 days ago

Also mentioned here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35197000 (March 2023)

windowliker•2 days ago

>[...] and led me to Perec's Life: A User's Manua

For people who may be unfamiliar with this (excellent) connection: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oulipo

ghstinda•2 days ago

It is also one of my favorite books. Magical writing.

dang•2 days ago

Related. Others?

The Timeless Magic of Italo Calvino's Invisible Cities at 50 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43511876 - March 2025 (1 comment)

The Human Reader: Italo Calvino foresaw generative AI’s necessary companion - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35764984 - April 2023 (1 comment)

The Worlds of Italo Calvino - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35178426 - March 2023 (47 comments)

What would it be like if Italo Calvino and Sun Tzu explained refactoring? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35150753 - March 2023 (3 comments)

Italo Calvino, The Art of Fiction No. 130 (1992) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26395898 - March 2021 (28 comments)

The Penguin Book of Oulipo review – writing, a user's manual - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21869669 - Dec 2019 (2 comments)

Italo Calvino, The Art of Fiction No. 130 (1992) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21340794 - Oct 2019 (29 comments)

The Movies of My Youth - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10151334 - Sept 2015 (5 comments)

Cybernetics and Ghosts (1967) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9001508 - Feb 2015 (1 comment)

simonsarris•2 days ago

As a fan of Calvino I will say that If on a Winter’s Night a Traveller is somewhat more enjoyable after you've read a bunch of other Calvino, since it has a somewhat cheeky, self-referential feel and the more you sympathize with the author the more you may like it.

Numbers in the Dark is very good as a place to start.

SubGenius•2 days ago

Marcovaldo, Cosmicomics, Difficult Loves are my favorite. Baron in the Trees too.

I'd definitely suggest starting with these. His short story work is beautiful.

pimeys•2 days ago

The Baron in the Trees is mentioned so rarely always, but it was one of the most influential books of my youth. A fantastic read.

amarcheschi•2 days ago

In italian high schools you learn to hate a lot of what you do, just because you're a student and can't be bothered to enjoy an analysis of some themes - then when you're a bit older you start to appreciate what you hated much more

mcphage•2 days ago

Invisible Cities is my absolute favorite of his short stories.

kgwgk•2 days ago

> Cosmicomics

Damn Qfwfq.

atombender•2 days ago

I absolutely loved Invisible Cities, but I couldn't get more than a couple of chapters into If on a Winter's Night. The first pages are very evocative, but it gets really repetitive with nothing to "progress" the "plot".

My impression (possibly mistaken) is that it's a product of its time that was innovative, but hasn't aged that well. More a fun puzzle box than something with emotional weight.

Given the above, what other Calvino work might appeal more to someone like me?

sgwizdak•2 days ago

Great article - "Invisible Cities" was my introduction to his work and remains a favorite.

riffraff•2 days ago

It's my favorite work of literature, I have gifted it to a bunch of people over the years and most have appreciated it too.

You are bound to find at least one city that will stay with you.

mcphage•2 days ago

I’m here for the Invisible Cities fan club!

OhMeadhbh•2 days ago

Reminds me of this linked in profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julien-de-foucauld-0b1323287/

Rant423•1 day ago

recommendations:

* Our Ancestors (The Cloven Viscount, The Baron in the Trees, The Nonexistent Knight)

* The Complete Cosmicomics (Cosmicomics, t zero, + others)

* Invisible Cities

* If on a winter's night a traveler

MrBuddyCasino•2 days ago

Only read Path To The Spider‘s Nest so far, had no trouble finishing it. Rare these days. Recommend!

xhevahir•2 days ago

I've never been able to get into Calvino. Those works of his that I've read mostly felt like games and puzzles, sterile mental exercises, or inconsequential fantasy.