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mg7946136 minutes ago
Yeah, as a dutch person I was already already not happy of our soldiers dying in a country that didnt do 9/11 not had weapons of destruction.

I remember Bush's words very clearly; "you are either with us or against us" which was a arm twister and not something an ally would do.

Little over 20 years later we are again forced to comply. Not for freedom, not for righteousness. No again for oil to make a few in the USA even richer.

And this time its bipartisan.

I think the Americans that died for my freedom are rolling in their grave about what their children are doing with it.

dsignabout 1 hour ago
This bill essentially creates a legal basis for the U.S. to forbid its companies from servicing semiconductor tool makers if those tool makers do not fit themselves with a proper yokel in 150 days[^1].

In practical terms, this bill is the equivalent of the major of a village forbidding the local blacksmith from making hammers for the goldsmith living in the next village, if said goldsmith sells jewelry to the vast enclave of dwarfs living under the mountain range.

On the enforceability front though, I believe that ASML uses enough American parts and services to be forced into compliance at least for half a decade, though I wish they would start unentangling from any American dependencies immediately.

[^1]: Page 12, lines 22-24

jandrewrogers9 minutes ago
ASML licenses EUV technology from the US government, which developed it. This is where the leverage of the US government comes from. To disentangle, ASML would have to develop an independent EUV technology that is practically substitutable. They have an existing installed base they need to continue to maintain.

They may be able to do this but it would likely require many, many years before they could sunset their current EUV license. It could make more sense to just work on whatever will eventually replace EUV.

zdragnar32 minutes ago
I suspect the intent (hope) is that by then there will be more fabs running in the US and that we won't have cut our legs off at the knees. It's pretty hard to see a significant chunk of chip manufacturing being onshored by then though, if it ever happens.
chvid34 minutes ago
It is all about ASML and preventing their business with China.

Incredible what the EU puts up with.

etiennebausson8 minutes ago
Another demonstration of why depending on any American service is not worth the cost.

Use no U.S. part, and you can sell to the whole world. Use U.S. part, and you might ne restricted to the U.S.

No way this can backfire in any way.