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anon8487362812 minutes ago
From the lab of Christopher Henson at University of Oregon. They've done lots of work on coffee.

Doran and Chris also host a podcast called Coffee Literature Review, where they invite a guest from the coffee industry and discuss a scientific paper connected to coffee somehow: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coffee-literature-revi...

At the SCA Expo a few years ago, they were doing electrochemistry on brewed coffee to measure caffeine content, and also change the flavor in weird ways. This paper seems to come from a similar vein.

fsckboy31 minutes ago
>Here we show that cyclic voltammetry can be used without any additional sample preparation to directly measure the strength of a coffee beverage and, separately, how dark the coffee has been roasted; these two properties are implicated in the sensory profile of the beverage.

those two properties do not even touch on the quality of the beans, nor how those flavors are developed and maintained through roasting. measuring the darkness of roast does not tell you how dark the coffee should have been roasted for optimum flavor profile.

I'm not aware that it can be done analytically, it requires trained tastebuds, and in my experience, tastebuds trained on many coffees over time (a sort of 10,000 hours type idea, probably needs neuroplasticity); most roasters have a sort of narrow "tunnel vision" based around their own coffees which they taste relentlessly.

to actually taste delicious coffee it needs to cool down quite a bit, below 130F 55C which is not very hot. I understand the pleasure of a hot cup of coffee, but that pleasure is not flavor pleasure.

anon8487362810 minutes ago
Yes, but once your target roast and strength is dialed in, this can easily be used for quality control. Keep in mind that the coffee industry is very different than home specialty brews.
zeristor1 day ago
How long before James Hoffman finds out about this.

Waiting for him to appear in the YouTube shorts Brooklyn Coffee shop now I think about it.

SkiFreeWin3about 4 hours ago
It took me a few vids to warm up to his presentation style and the production style, but now anyone else doing coffee vids seems like a total amateur/influencer/YT rusher. Early Hoffman coffee competitions were the proof point for me that he’s not simply an influencer entrant.

His presentation still is still a bit forced and orchestrated to me, but at least I believe he’s smart and has interest in the craft.

jitlabout 1 hour ago
he’s adorable what’s not to love??
andreareina19 minutes ago
What does this offer over the refractometer he already has?
advisedwangabout 2 hours ago
I suppose this might be useful for making full-auto coffee machines that can self-adjust parameters like grind size, water:coffee ratio, tamping strength (for espresso style machines) etc. Although there's plenty of things to measure already, they don't really directly check correct brewing. This could help improve a lot.
userbinatorabout 2 hours ago
I suggest "black coffee electrochemical quality appraisal"; as-is, it made me wonder what "electrochemical black coffee" is.
s0rceabout 4 hours ago
I sent this to our electrochemist at work, maybe if we have some time we can test the coffee in the breakroom.
anon848736282 minutes ago
Their lab has been playing with this for a while: https://sca.coffee/sca-news/25/issue-18/amped-up-using-elect...
xingpedabout 2 hours ago
The title says "quality" but the summary seems to say it only measures the "strength" oand "darkness of roast". Certainly won't measure how good it tastes. Given these are the two properties purportedly measured, I imagine you'd get the same results regardless of tastiness and age of the coffee or beans.