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That is, the cell is small enough in order to be produced directly by molecules but large enough in order to be a full living organism (reproduction, metabolism etc). This sweet spot seems to be the cell size we observe.
Later in evolution the size disparity grew because a procaryotic cell swallowed another one to become an eucaryotic and the eucaryotic ones specialized even further.
There are even single celled organisms which will prey upon and eat multicellular animals.
https://i.imgur.com/9BoxjK8.jpeg
Some call them water bears. I am not quite sure they look like bears (six leg bear?) but the stubbly legs are indeed cute.
From the front, they somewhat do. See https://uconnladybug.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/0...
Anything selfreplicating kinda needs to be as small as possible (compared to the smallest internal mechanisms required), otherwise the replication time grows out of control: Consider a 3D printer that can fully selfreplicate by depositing individual molecules: If this was the size of a regular printer, the replication time would be hopelessly long (>billion years even if it could deposit billions of atoms/s).
This applies somewhat universally, and is one of the reason why our current industrial tech is so unsuitable for selfreplication: Any "printing" like process (books, metal stamping, lithography) requires internal features that are much smaller than the output it produces.
"The allocation of all metabolic resources to maintenance purposes limits the size of the smallest prokaryotes and largest unicellular eukaryotes, whereas an inability to meet the ever-increasing biosynthesis rates limits the largest prokaryotes and smallest unicellular eukaryotes. Metabolic constraints for larger eukaryotes are relieved by alternative reproductive strategies and multicellularity."
https://arxiv.org/abs/1312.0674
https://teaching.hkaiser.org/fall2025/csc7103/course/papers/... (PDF 50 KB, 5 pages essay + 3 pages commentary)
[0] https://www.princeton.edu/news/2013/10/24/gravity-plays-role...
Also : as usual, lots of HN type nitpicking in the comments, most missing the main story.
Largest eukaryote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valonia_ventricosa
largest prokaryote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomargarita_namibiensis
> Case in point: a giant bacterium called Thiomargarita magnifica can extend about one centimeter in length, so large that it can be seen by the naked eye. It does so by breaking the surface area-to-volume rule, filling between 65–80 percent of its internal volume with an empty vacuole. In other words, it pushes most of its molecules to the cell periphery, thus shortening diffusion distances.
There is also a captioned image of bubble algae in the post.
Nice paradox
See:
"The Mimivirus is a giant virus that infects amoebae and was long considered to be a bacterium due to its size."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9133948/
Although for me, I always used the definitions through the genetic information available (genome). So as long as a virus still is a parasite, I'd hold up that definition. It will be interesting when viruses are found that are even closer to a cell, e. g. some life cycle where they could switch between parasitism and stand-alone metabolism (or some hybrid in between; I mean if they can encode whole metabolic pathways, at the least some or some parts of it, the threshold here should not be impossible to overcome, and then the whole definition of a virus also has to be adapted since it would no longer make sense).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrotransposon#Endogenous_ret...
Actually the wikipedia article states:
"It is the second largest bacterium ever discovered"
> The largest T. magnifica cell Volland found was 2 centimeters tall
https://www.science.org/content/article/largest-bacterium-ev...
Granted, they are grouped both in Thiomargarita. 2cm is pretty gigantic. What I always found more interesting was that they don't merely have just one genome.
Yeah. That's probably it. Really, it probably is the right answer.
Thanks for the good work
It turns out the oocyte is the single cell inside the egg, which for birds is significantly larger than a typical cell. So in that respect, the cell in a bird egg is very large. However, compared to the egg itself, it's tiny. The yolk and whites in the egg are all to provide nutrients as it grows, if fertilized.
From Wikipedia:
> The yolk is not living cell material like protoplasm, but largely passive material
I could be off base here though, I'm really channeling grade 9 bio class from decades ago!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axolemma
Or does that work with diffusion too?
edit: Huh. Actually not a bad read. It even mentions ' On Growth and Form' which is interesting, if outdated. There are more modern texts like 'Shapes', 'Flow', and 'Branches' by Philip J Ball.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44498083
Funny, but might as well be generic, trained from reddit comments. What a time we live in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valonia_ventricosa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetabularia