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nunezabout 1 hour ago
I'd love to see more attention given to what I've called "red mode".

It's a colour filter that, well, makes the screen red.

It's AMAZING for reading at night. Not bright, renders text clearly, amazing on the eyes.

I'd also like to see an eInk phone take off, but this is more doable.

Reduce White Point is also great for reducing max brightness and preserving eye health

orev21 minutes ago
My setup is: dark mode, color filters tint red, brightness 0, and reduce white point. It’s almost completely unusable in regular lit rooms, but nice in complete darkness (mostly apps like Instapaper).

The main issue I have is that blue text is unreadable. I wish you could stack color filters like grayscale first, then red tint.

leejoramo27 minutes ago
I too have had a shortcut for “red filter” + “minimal brightness” + “reduced brightness” for years.

I trigger it by a Triple back tap.

Great for night usage with our eye strain or bothering your spouse

bigmattystyles25 minutes ago
My BMW defaults to orange / reddish for night time and I’ve often thought it’s very easy on the eyes.
fionicabout 2 hours ago
Setting up triple click to toggle greyscale on or off in accessibility settings whenever I need color enabled works much better for me
broofabout 1 hour ago
Originally I had grayscale mode on and it reduced my phone usage a ton, but I stopped because it got in the way of photos and camera, things like that. I changed to using the triple click accessibility shortcut but I found it relied too much on me having to remember to turn the grayscale mode back on. This automates it so I’ll try it and hopefully it helps reduce phone usage more.
N_Lensabout 2 hours ago
What?! And miss out on setting up 72 automations for different apps that sometimes bug out?
manwe150about 2 hours ago
It’s 1 automation for all apps

The clever insight here is that it automates turning grayscale back on whenever you leave (or alternatively open) an app

multiplegeorgesabout 4 hours ago
Using my phone in grayscale convinced me of the power of shiny colours. It is shocking how boring my phone feels in grayscale.

This really does help break any feeling of attachment to the device and the solutions in this post really do make it more practical. It does kind of suck using the camera in grayscale.

boringgabout 3 hours ago
Why do you think Pokemon makes the cards super bright and shiny :)
dylan604about 3 hours ago
No need to get specific. Look at any retail packaging. Look at any advertisement. Bright and shiny always gets the attention. You've never read anyone reply "ooh, grayscale". It's always "Ooooh, shiny"
Xerox9213about 2 hours ago
Apple does a pretty good job of extracting dopamine from black and white packaging.
Ronsenshiabout 2 hours ago
Tried turning on greyscale mode and I am surprised by how effectively it works in making me not want to use the phone.

Not sure if it's the lack of color in general or because screens kind of turn into a black and white mush that's hard to navigate.

HerbManicabout 1 hour ago
I think it is a mix of both. Grey scale reduces the vividness of everything, but also none of these apps are really designed with grey scale in mind.

Greyscale can be very cool and easy to use if built for it. Just look at Mac's before they went colour as an example.

HeartStrings42 minutes ago
I turned off all notifications, put the phone away upside down and same effect.
anonzzziesabout 1 hour ago
I just recently got an eink phone to focus more and work/do stuff in sunlight (always sunny here); samsung and iPhone kept overheating and are barely readable in some cases, even just having a coffee in the morning. It really helps focus on just spending my time in the terminal or in chat for instance and, while it actually really nice to work in one app, switching sucks so it works well. I could not have it as my only device, but next to an iPhone or android, it is been great so far.
HeartStringsabout 1 hour ago
My addiction isn’t the phone, it’s the computer, Youtube specifically. And I can’t use greyscale due to creative Photoshop work. Kingdom to whomever solves my problem.
eks39110 minutes ago
Get yourself a greyscale browser filter so photoshop isn't affected. This is the first result I got; I'm sure there are better ones

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/grayscale-screen/mc...

omkabout 2 hours ago
Have been in using greyscale on and off to reduce my screen time. Due the issues that the author reported I switched back and changed the icon colors to monocolor grey with black wallpaper to atleast keep the phone default UI color free.

The first behaviour it changed is making app logos of Instagram, YouTube, Reddit stand out. Some of these apps became a reflex click when I unlock my phone usually as a fidget. Greyscale takes away the lure of these app icons.

Love the shortcuts tip. Setting it up to see if I can sustain greyscale full time now.

embedding-shapeabout 4 hours ago
I've bound toggling greyscale on/off to pressing the lock-button 3 times, makes it very easy to switch back/forth when you need it, but still be able to leave it greyscale most of the time.
culiabout 3 hours ago
I do this too but often forget to turn it back on when I need it off (e.g. for maps or for looking at a picture)
tasoeurabout 4 hours ago
This is actually very neat, my phone is already setup with grayscale and triple tap to turn on red light filter so I’m exited to add that!

Little plug since we’re in the topic of dumb phones etc, I have a completely free and non-creepy iPhone app launcher for folks who are into that:

- https://sxp.studio/apps/applist

(The app catalog is also open source)

manwe150about 2 hours ago
This is such a clever way to automate so that the setup actually works. I just set it up, and wonder why the author didn’t set it up to trigger grayscale on app opening. I noticed that app switching also isn’t considered closing an app, so it seems most reliable to trigger on app open as well as close
oldsklgdfthabout 4 hours ago
Can remember how I set it up. Tap the back of my iphone 3 times and it toggles greyscale.

Makes taking and looking at photos nice.

SoftTalkerabout 3 hours ago
Never knew that tapping the back of the phone did anything. Yet another Apple convention you only discover by accident?
what14 minutes ago
It’s an “accessibility” feature. You can assign an action to double and triple tap. But it’s very inconsistent. It doesn’t work half the time and it will trigger randomly if you move your phone funny.
everlyabout 2 hours ago
More like an accessibility setting that has widespread utility (there are several others, e.g. iOS has built-in background noise generators in accessibility)

That said, tapping on the back of the phone didn’t register consistently enough for me to utilize. I tried setting flashlight to that action. When I wanted it to work it wouldn’t. Then when I would be absentmindedly tapping it would activate.

golem14about 3 hours ago
That's pretty nifty -- how to you register taps on back with automation?
what12 minutes ago
It’s in the accessibility settings. You can assign an action for double or triple tap.
golem14about 2 hours ago
Also, since I had an atari st as my first 'serious" computer, I loved the B&W monitor and b&W GEM.

I'm still looking for a way to preserve the low-color feel for my macbooks and mac desktops. Also I love the idea of low-dopamine UIs in principle.

For same reasons as the original author, I find myself to abandon the B&W mode and then do not turn it back on later.

I'd envision OS layer that handles the desktop, finder and apps, and an API that apps like browsers can use, e.g. in chrome extensions.

Anyone here aware of work in that area?

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erelongabout 3 hours ago
I use perpetual night mode blue light filter, it just feels cozy enough

Grayscale was a functional problem because some pics communicate with color (like colored maps) so it nudged me away

drzaiusx11about 2 hours ago
I switched to a nxtpaper pro phone which has a hardware switch for bw vs color modes and an e-ink like display (not as good but close enough)

I love it, mostly because it forces me to use phone less..

iosguyryanabout 3 hours ago
Accessibility > Vibration > Off

Removes a lot of purposefully rewarding/manipulating haptics. Makes a phone feel "quiet" and easier to put down.

throw03172019about 2 hours ago
What apps were vibrating that much? I live in Do Not Disturb mode so I don’t have sounds for alerts.
matthewfcarlsonabout 3 hours ago
I’ve been doing exactly this (with the shortcuts) for almost 3 years now. I don’t think it’s as powerful as I would like but it’s certainly helped. I do wish more apps worked in grayscale (calendar I’m looking at you) but that’s on my long list of grievances.
Maximus9000about 3 hours ago
This is fantastic! I had greyscale on many years ago, but I had to turn turn colours back on for google maps... but this trick allows me to have my cake and eat it too!
dylan604about 3 hours ago
Looking at the example images, I was actually shocked that the app was so low contrast in B&W to be unusable. At least apps from Apple/Google. I would have expected their usability teams to be all over it, while expecting smaller app devs to need a pass on this.
justinatorabout 3 hours ago
Does running greyscale help with energy conservation?
deepvibrationsabout 4 hours ago
This is great, would love to see a similar way to do it in Android.
spharsabout 1 hour ago
There's likely a way to do with via Tasker/MacroDroid but you'll likely need to use Shizuku (or possibly root) to change these system settings.
Groxxabout 4 hours ago
I don't know of any way to control the setting automatically (sometimes there are special-permission non-standard/undocumented intents for settings though), but as a maybe-close-enough you can turn on grayscale color correction (in accessibility -> color & motion, in my phone) and add a quick-settings tile to toggle it.
froindtabout 4 hours ago
I'm on a Pixel 10 for these instructions, not sure if other manufacturers offer the same options.

Modes is an available option in the tile list. You can go to Modes, create a custom mode, and under display options you can set greyscale. You can also set modes to turn on automatically based on calendar events or a schedule. Notification tweaks are also available in the same area.

strikingabout 4 hours ago
You can also use one of the accessibility shortcuts to trigger it quickly (both volume buttons held, triple tap, two fingers from bottom) if so configured
rubslopesabout 4 hours ago
Samsung routines can do this.
usernametaken29about 3 hours ago
This is awesome, hope it helps me squash my YouTube addiction
chrisbrandowabout 1 hour ago
Clever!
hemmertabout 22 hours ago
I want my phone to be greyscale (low-dopamine), but some apps need color. Here's my workaround that works for me (triple-pressing the side button didn't, I forget to turn greyscale back on.)
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