Swiss voters reject proposal to cap Population at 10M

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lukeify•44 minutes ago

Without these kinds of policies you'll just see the rise of more "new-right" parties like One Nation in Australia and Reform in the United Kingdom (yes, I am aware both are not "new", but they are newly popular).

It turns out there is a sufficient amount of immigration that is disliked by the populace that they will dump support for long-standing parties in favour of those who promise change.

flawn•16 minutes ago

Not sure if there is any in-depth analysis across more countries about this pattern, but also in this votum, densely populated urban areas had a clear stance against this votum, whereas the majority of votes have come from rural areas. So I am not as certain as you are whether the trend extrapolates as outlined - I rather imagine that the polarization will increase even further across these two segments, with lived and experienced realities drifting apart.

jojomodding•40 minutes ago

Switzerland already has such a party, the SVP (UDC in French), and in fact they put forward the initiative.

This was widely understood to be a vote on how well the SVP can appeal to the center. Turns out pretty well but it's not entirely surprising given their recent election results.

lukeify•35 minutes ago

Yeah.

So what will realistically happen, if we look at the trajectories of other countries, is that immigration will continue to rise, more people will be peaked by the discontent it can sow, and the popularity of this party will rise further.

add-sub-mul-div•32 minutes ago

Imagine taking away from the last century of world history the lesson that we should proactively give in to demagogues.

lukeify•25 minutes ago

And it's criticisms like this that isolate people further from each other politically and emboldens support for the parties you dislike.

There are valid and reasonable reasons to dislike large-scale immigration beyond supporting despots for the sake of doing so. The mainstream parties are not offering alternatives, can you blame those who are disaffected by this rapid societal change from reaching out to support the first name that voices critique at policies they dislike?

sergiomattei•16 minutes ago

Can you list some of these reasons?

brewdad•16 minutes ago

Yes. Yes I can and do blame them.

WarOnPrivacy•about 1 hour ago

https://archive.fo/BuQeu

ChrisArchitect•14 minutes ago

[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48529149

Swiss voters reject proposal to cap Population at 10M

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