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Insanityabout 1 hour ago
I understood this as a “the next generation will cost more”. By now I am sure apple can fairly accurately predict device sales for each season and so they likely have a decent backlog for the current generation, procured at reasonable cost from hardware manufacturers.

It’s when they had to negotiate for the next generation where the price would be hiked.

Like the author I wouldn’t bet more than a beverage on this though.

lostlogin18 minutes ago
> By now I am sure apple can fairly accurately predict device sales

The Neo being an exception I beleive.

Insanity9 minutes ago
That’s a new product line. Should have clarified but I meant mostly their existing product lines and specifically iPhone
RaSoJo20 minutes ago
>I also do not think they’re going to raise the prices of existing products mid-cycle

This surprised me too. I'd accepted that price hikes were coming for the new range...that's expected. But hiking prices on the existing range felt like a step too far!

Might have been a marketing stunt to nudge people into upgrading. Well, if that was the plan, it worked. I just caved and bought an M5 to replace my older one. Boo.

basisword12 minutes ago
Why is that a step too far? e.g. the PS5 price has increased like 25% and it's a 6 year old product now. Similar for other consoles. It feels much more acceptable to me on something like a Mac that's less than a year old (and going to last a long time + have good resale value).
qsxfthnkp2322about 1 hour ago
Tim justifying selling a computer for more than 10k when that Mac Studio comes out
netdevphoenix33 minutes ago
This was inevitable. The better question is if AI related hardware costs drop after the AI bubble implodes, will Apple drop the prices? My answer is negative.
GL2615 minutes ago
"Oh no we are going to have to either reduce our 20,000x margins, or we are going to have to double the prices of everything we sell, I wonder which option we are going to choose"
SirFattyabout 1 hour ago
Slow news day, I guess.
chistevabout 1 hour ago
September.
jmyeetabout 1 hour ago
This is understandable given the market but part of me really wishes this would wait a year even though it won't.

Mac hardware is so close to being really useful for local LLMs and it's shared memory architecture could be a direct shot across the bow of NVidia's aggressive VRAM Market segmentation but it just can't compete with the raw FLOPS and memory bandwidth of NVidia. You can buy a Macbook Pro with an M5 Max with 128GB of RAM for $6k currently. I expect that will go up by 20-50% in the next generation.

It's safe to say that no current Apple product will get a RAM bump for the next 1-2 cycles at least.

I think this is going to impact NVidia too but in a different way. Normally in NVidia's product cycle we'd expect 50x0 Super mid-cycle refreshes. It's clear that's not happening this time around. We might expect the 6000 series late next year. I think there's zero incentive for NVidia to do that so that'll likely get delayed into 2028 or possibly 2029. 5090 prices keep going up even though it's 1.5 years old.

Anyway, as for Apple I'm keenly watching for the anticipated refresh of the Mac Studio lineup. The previous gen (M3 Ultra, M4 Max) just don't have the raw horsepower even though they had configs up to 512GB (512GB and 256GB now discontinued). It'll be interesting to see what the max config is and when these come up. Q3 2026 is widely expected but I wouldn't be surprised if it slips into 2027.

lostlogin16 minutes ago
> It's safe to say that no current Apple product will get a RAM bump for the next 1-2 cycles at least.

The Neo seems likely to.