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esikichabout 3 hours ago
He's 72 years old, I'm sure he has the best brains and everyone's best interests in mind. This is exactly what I want to see. I'm sure he will have very good opinions on technology and it's implications.
steve1977about 2 hours ago
Bjarne Stroustrup is 75 years old. I don't think that age per se tells us much.
Balinaresabout 1 hour ago
What's Stroustrup up to these days though?
colordropsabout 3 hours ago
I assume this is sarcasm?
brikymabout 2 hours ago
Good instinct — this is exactly the kind of issue we should keep an eye on.
protocoltureabout 3 hours ago
Ben Bernanke would have figured that out already.
carabinerabout 2 hours ago
Fair callout.
visiondudeabout 4 hours ago
so the architect of government bailout gets a cushy gig. probably one of the most harmful precedents set and now companies expect bailouts. to bailout the company instead of people and small shareholders was always poor decision, emboldened the worst of the business class. don’t love this hire lol
kefabeanabout 1 hour ago
So does this appointment signpost a likely industry-wide token squeeze requiring Benanke’s specific domain knowledge to navigate?
brikymabout 3 hours ago
Just in case Anthropic are looking for some more members that are a good cultural fit I found this list:

> Genie Energy's Strategic advisory board is composed of: Dick Cheney since 2009 (former vice president of the United States),[3] Rupert Murdoch (media mogul and chairman of News Corp), James Woolsey (former CIA director), Larry Summers (former head of the US Treasury), Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild,[4][5] and Mary Landrieu, former United States Senator from Louisiana.

sph28 minutes ago
Imagine Rupert Murdoch (95, worth $21.7 billion) arguing the pros and cons of job displacement and widening economic inequality caused by generative AI.
j_bumabout 2 hours ago
Dick Cheney passed away in 2025, just an FYI.
brikymabout 2 hours ago
I'd recommend they substitute him for a well known, uncontroversial figure like Klaus Schwab.
jules-julesabout 1 hour ago
Big fan of Larry Summers here. He seems to be part of everything, Harvard, Epstein, etc.
rekwahabout 4 hours ago
This feels like Theranos loading up their board with big names.
mountainriverabout 4 hours ago
Except Anthropic has delivered a truly world changing product…
patconabout 4 hours ago
So did Los Alamos?

Edit: don't get me wrong, I'm a happy user. But I'd also be a happy consumer of refined sugar in the early 20th century. I'm still not sure if these tools won't destabilize society to the point of collapse. I don't think we understand the complexity of what's going on nearly enough, and am certainly not optimistic about AI being net good for us

mulmenabout 1 hour ago
This came up on the Lunch Money livestream yesterday. The entire episode is worth a listen but here's the relevant sections:

Krugman: "I've been writing some about downsides of technological change and I realized afterwards that if I really wanted a really stellar example of a productive important innovation that had terrible effects on society would be the cotton gin."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJxQbfbpf7M&t=25m38s

Richardson: "I always have a hard time articulating this, but the number of large plantations in which enslavers owned in air quotes, you know, more than 25 or more than 50 other human beings was a very very small proportion of the American South, less than 1%. The majority of people who again owned their black neighbors had one or two enslaved people on their farms. They weren't necessarily called plantations. And they would be working alongside those black Americans. And the cotton gin could have made small farms viable and could have ended human enslavement. And instead what they gave us was, you know, the the Trail of Tears in the 1830s that cleans indigenous Americans out of the southwestern land. You get an extraordinary land rush into the American South in the 1830s and the 1840s. And you get the establishment of these gigantic essentially factory farms. And that's a place where, you know, the majority of southerners, obviously the indigenous southerners and the black southerners, wanted no part of this system, but it actually didn't serve the white farmers either. It served a really small, less than 1% group of American enslavers in the American South. And you look at that and you think that wasn't the technologies fault. That was the fault of the people who um who set up the political system that enabled it to work that way."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJxQbfbpf7M&t=28m18s

hatefulheartabout 2 hours ago
8 months ago I asked this question, I will ask again:

Where are your browsers? Where are your compilers? Where are your databases? Where are your operating systems?

Can you point me to literally anything useful that works and was created by this world changing technology? All I see is dead project after dead project.

siwakotisauravabout 2 hours ago
If you take them at their word, the people working on the current browsers, compilers and databases are all using it

Google self reports 70% ai usage in code, bun was fully ai rewritten to be rust

lostaccountabout 4 hours ago
World changing in a good way?
onion2kabout 2 hours ago
Your question implies a belief that things are 'good' or 'bad', but the reality of the world is a lot more nuanced than that. Pretty much everything that doesn't lead directly to human suffering can be seen as both good and bad.
msikoraabout 4 hours ago
Yes, absolutely in a good way
casey2about 1 hour ago
No, that would be OpenAI (or Google if you want to talk technicals). Anthropic's strategy was just let RL on coding and jack up the price. I can only assume their real strategy is to speedrun getting the whole industry turned into a utility.
fragmedeabout 4 hours ago
You can complain that the economics don't work out for you, but Theranos was a fraud, meaning they didn't have a product. Fable is very much a real thing that I can interact with over the Internet.
jimbob45about 3 hours ago
Has it ever been proven that the board knew that Theranos was fraudulent? I’m speaking broadly - of course they probably had their own suspicions.
whatever1about 3 hours ago
Any idea how one can join a board? Eating donuts and bagels with coffee once a quarter for 200k is my dream job.
godwinson__4-8about 3 hours ago
Already be rich. Sorry buddy, as George Carlin said it's a big club, and you ain't in it.
DesaiAshuabout 4 hours ago
The government response to the ‘08 crisis seems to have worked out better for most big banks (low taxing of negative externalities, growing larger and more profitable), than for regional banks (consolidated) and the bulk of Americans (low median wealth, rising costs of housing/living)

Given the data on this[1], this is a confusing choice of hire to ensure AI gains are distributed equitably

[1] https://economicprinciples.org/Why-and-How-Capitalism-Needs-...

eruabout 3 hours ago
The having so many tiny regional banks is a holdover from the bad old days when branch banking was largely outlawed.
eknkcabout 4 hours ago
Someone here recently said, “Dishonesty is a core value of Anthropic,” and that aligns with my experience of the company as a user. All their talk about AI safety since the company’s inception now feels like pure theater, given their conduct in everyday operations. It’s a shame how quickly their image has deteriorated.
siren2026about 4 hours ago
That's actually exactly how I feel about Anthropic.

They play such a PR game, trying really really hard to be seen as the good guys. It feels as another satirical episode of Silicon Valley. It's very clear they are all money and power motivated while also pretending to do all of this for the good of humanity. I have rarely seen that level of hypocrisy and cultish behavior from leadership and employees there.

I would honestly just prefer if they were honest about being power and money hungry instead of playing that game of AI Safety.

ifwintercoabout 3 hours ago
The funny thing is it’s so transparent. Like… is that the point? They want us to know how dodgy they are, kind of as a “** you”?

Often the point of propaganda is not to convince, it’s to demoralise.

On the other hand I could also believe that they live in such a bubble they genuinely don’t understand how it comes across. Add in a non-negligible amount of neurodivergence and maybe that’s the simplest explanation

esperentabout 2 hours ago
> On the other hand I could also believe that they live in such a bubble they genuinely don’t understand how it comes across

Yes, at least until ~6 months ago that was my reading too. I felt they were part of the EA/less wrong crowd. Earnest, convinced they were smarter than everyone else, paternalistic, massively lacking in real wisdom.

Now, I think maybe they're still struggling with that but they've had a real taste of power and like everyone smart but lacking in wisdom, faced with the real world, all their idealism has become lip service and pandering to their previous in group while their real target (which they probably haven't even admitted to themselves) slips further and further towards gathering more power.

As another example of a tech company where something similar happened, see Google. Although at least they never started out with this condescending "we're here to save you from... us" vibe.

SOLAR_FIELDSabout 4 hours ago
At least Sam Altman appeared to drop all pretenses of his pure sociopathy some time ago
reasonablekloutabout 1 hour ago
Hm, they are still the most transparent lab when it comes to publishing system cards and safety research. For example the system card for Fable 5 runs 319 pages.

The stuff with Fable falling back to Opus was a bad business move but seems consistent with their position on safety and was published in the system card. Is Ben Bernanke joining the board a dishonest move?

Avicebronabout 4 hours ago
Dishonesty is at the core of Effective Altruism, which strangles a lot of the sensible choices Anthropic should be making. Although this feels more like, "anyone with socio-political edge worming their way in to suckle on the feed of imaginary printed money" more than anything.
colinbabout 2 hours ago
Can you provide some context for this? I’m aware of SBF’s EA links, and how empty those sentiments appear to have been, but I’m just some guy, and it isn’t clear to me that the whole idea is dishonest, even if I don’t think it’s terribly realistic.
yieldcrvabout 4 hours ago
Is he for loosening or tightening AI safety policy?
CGMthrowawayabout 4 hours ago
If anything he would be for tightening it, but I suspect his role is less about being a vote one way or the other.

The value he brings is in his data, knowledge & analyses - which he surely has from the Fed - on the scope and extent of AI's potential rrisks in capital sustainability, market stability and wage/job displacement

Iakemanabout 4 hours ago
That's a funny way of saying connections
yieldcrvabout 3 hours ago
[wheeeeeeeze]
BrenBarnabout 4 hours ago
Whoop de doo. I'm sure there'll be huge earth-shaking changes in their activities now, right?
i_idiotabout 4 hours ago
These guys have to produce a hit piece everyday...everyone by now knows that "we are doing this for humanity" is bullshit.
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camillomillerabout 3 hours ago
Prepairing another bailout, I see
zxcb1about 3 hours ago
Illuminati