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Havoc12 minutes ago
I hope he wins the upcoming election. Won’t but one can hope…

The actual politician he’s standing against is an asshole

VBprogrammer6 minutes ago
There is at least some concern within their camp that they could lose the election to a guy with a bin on his head. That for me is a win.
JumpCrisscrossabout 3 hours ago
"Harvey previously stood as a similar character, Lord Buckethead, but was forced to create a new character due to a dispute with the filmmaker Todd Durham, who owns the Buckethead character" [1].

(The videos on this website are worth the watch. Hilarious, of course. But also...Binface conjugates Latin to Sky News, and not just as a bit. I don't know how I feel about the British comedy candidate outclassing half of the American elected leadership–and a good fraction of its industrial leadership–on IQ.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Binface

dofm9 minutes ago
> I don't know how I feel about the British comedy candidate outclassing half of the American elected leadership–and a good fraction of its industrial leadership–on IQ.)

Your entire political system has flirted with anti-intellectualism for over a century; it used to pretend to be uneducated simpletons to appeal to the electorate (witness, e.g. the folksy “ahhm just a simple mayynn” gurning schtick of Senator John Kennedy, who literally fakes his accent and demeanour despite having a sharp legal mind and who could likely conjugate latin) and now it has refined the concept such that politicians can actually be simpletons for real: Tommy Tuberville isn’t faking being thick and neither is Markwayne Mullin.

BLKNSLVRabout 1 hour ago
Excerpt from linked page:

> I came to Earth in 2017 and stood against Prime Minister Theresa May (as ‘Lord Buckethead’). Then in 2018, after an unfortunate battle on the planet Copyright, I rewspawned in my true form as Count Binface.

unfitted254523 minutes ago
I think it's so interesting he was a scriptwriter for "The Thick of It", a satirical comedy about British politics
BLKNSLVRabout 3 hours ago
I wish Count Binface all the best for the Clacton by-election.

Edited to add: Some of my favourite commentary around this by-election is along the lines of:

A fundamentally un-serious candidate with no coherent policies or political experience running against Count Binface.

whh17 minutes ago
I, for one, am ready for FFS1 & nationalising Adele.
taran_narat25 minutes ago
This person is hilarious, for non-UK people who are wondering what this is, this is a joke candidate for an MP who is getting a lot of attention because of the political system in the UK not working very well. This YouTube video has sort of started this off recently and made him go viral

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MCCVt8IhJkA&pp=ygUHQmluZmFjZQ%...

mellosoulsabout 2 hours ago
Related mini-discussion the other day:

Farage left fighting a trash can as the UK populist's election gamble backfires

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48848034

thih926 minutes ago
Novelty candidates sometimes get elected

> Drummond immediately decided to concentrate on politics and ceased being H'Angus; he was quoted as saying, "I am Stuart Drummond, I am the Mayor of Hartlepool, not the monkey." Drummond was re-elected in 2005, more than doubling his vote (up to over 16,000)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Drummond

wxwabout 3 hours ago
> I’m an intergalactic space warrior and leader of the Recyclons from planet Sigma IX.

Ok you have my vote.

llimosabout 2 hours ago
There's a long tradition in the UK of comedy candidates, notably the Monster Raving Loony Party.

There's even some talk of a potential Loony-Bin alliance.

onion2kabout 1 hour ago
The difference in this instance is that all of the major parties have stood aside, leaving the Clacton by-election as a race between Nigel Farage and Count Binface. Essentially it's turned into an election between Farage and anyone-but-Farage.

I sincerely hope the best alien wins.

stavrosabout 1 hour ago
I don't understand what this is, can someone explain? Clacton seems to be a town in the UK, are they campaigning for mayor? What's the relevance, why is Farage even involved?
jonners004 minutes ago
Nigel Farage was subject to at least two parliamentary standards enquiries about big, undisclosed personal payments he received from crypto-bros around the time he decided to stand to be the Member of Parliament (MP) for Clacton. Because he then lobbied the Bank of England as the leader of one of the parliamentary parties to drop their digital pound plans (which would undermine Tether's value proposition, and one of the donations, £5m/$6.75m, came from a Tether cofounder), the press were suggesting he is guilty of outright corruption.

By standing down as an MP, rather than letting the enquiry proceed, he hopes he has removed the parliamentary authorities' powers to look into his affairs too closely, but to avoid embarrassment, he's asserted in public that he stood down (and then immediately put himself forward as a candidate to stand in the special election that results) as a way to thwart the deep state's efforts to tarnish his reputation and to take away the power of the establishment to try him unfairly, and handed the power to determine his fate to the good people of Clacton (who now won't get the chance to find out if their local MP is corrupt, thanks to the parliamentary enquiry being halted).

In all honesty, it doesn't look like he knows what he's doing, but there was some suspicion that he was planning to drop out of the special election for personal reasons in due course, avoiding a return to parliament and the related scrutiny, and letting his seat fall to the Conservatives or Restore UK - but all the other parties refused to put up candidates, so now he's up against one comedy candidate and is probably going to win the seat regardless, unless he drops out and leaves the poor people of Clacton with a fiasco of some sort on their hands.

MarcScott29 minutes ago
Very briefly:

Farage received a "gift" of £5M. He didn't tell parliament about the gift, which breaks the rules. MPs or campaigning MPs need to declare gifts and donations, as there are strict rules on who you can receive money from. The media found out about the "gift", and Farage was going to be investigated. He resigned as MP for Clacton, which stops the investigation and triggers an election. I think his plan was for him to win again, and then be able to turn around and say "the people have decided, they don't care about gifts I get." However, all the other parties refused to stand candidates in the upcoming election. If Farage wins, then the investigation will start again. However, we have numerous comedic parties that will run in elections in the UK. Count Binface will challenge Farage. Farage won with something like 46% of the vote last time. With the negative coverage he's been receiving, and the option of sticking it to reform by voting for Count Binface, the people of Clacton might end up delivering a very embarrassing defeat for Farage. This is the country that voted to name a research vessel Boaty McBoatFace.

clort31 minutes ago
Farage is the current MP for Clacton. He has resigned because he is being investigated for taking massive amounts of dodgy money and not declaring it. He thinks he claimed the upper hand by saying that the voters would decide if that was ok or not, but the other parties have declined to participate. Now, it is a battle between himself and an alien being with a bin for a face.

Notably, if he is re-elected, the Parliamentary Standards Committee will simply continue their investigation into his dodgy finances.

13hours32 minutes ago
Representatives in the UK parliament are elected to represent a constituency, mostly the size of a town. In this case the constituency of Clanton is having a by-election (special election), because the representative resigned. With reading up on why this happened.
jdietrich30 minutes ago
Nigel Farage is the incumbent Member of Parliament for Clacton and the de-facto leader of Reform UK, a populist right-wing party that has only a handful of MPs but is currently leading the polls. He is being investigated by the Parliamentary Standards Committee over personal donations he accepted prior to becoming an MP. In response to this investigation, Farage stood down as MP, triggering a by-election (a special election held when an MP resigns, dies or is otherwise removed from their seat mid-term).

Farage announced his intention to stand in this by-election (which he is entitled to do), arguing that only his constituents had the right to decide whether he was fit to be a Member of Parliament. He argues that the Standards Committee is fundamentally illegitimate because he would be judged by his political rivals; in any case, the greatest sanction the committee could impose would be his expulsion from parliament, which would trigger a by-election that he would be entitled to stand in. The other major parties have all decided not to stand candidates against Farage in the Clacton by-election, creating this slightly farcical contest between the incumbent and a joke candidate.

ncallaway28 minutes ago
It is a seat of parliament for the Clacton constituency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clacton_(constituency)). If you're American, think of it as a Congressional District, and it's a special election.

Basically Nigel Farage won the seat to become a member of parliament representing the Clacton district. Then, there was an ethics scandal, so Nigel Farage resigned his seat, but is running in the special election to fill the vacancy. All the other serious political parties (Greens, Labour, Conservatives, Restore) think this is a stunt and a waste of time, so they aren't running any candidates. So, Nigel Farage is the only "real" politician in the race, and the "silly" candidate with the most support is Count Binface. So the special election ends up being between Farage and Count Binface.

LeoPanthera30 minutes ago
Clacton is a town in the UK. The election was triggered by Nigel Farage, the right-wing leader of the Reform UK party, resigning his parliamentary seat in early July amid a parliamentary investigation into an allegedly undeclared £5 million financial gift.

Instead of waiting out the inquiry, Farage decided to immediately run for his own vacant seat again, framing the sudden election as a "people versus the establishment" referendum to clear his name. All Britain's major political parties, including the governing Labour Party and the opposition Conservatives, are boycotting the race entirely.

Farage’s primary opponent is a man wearing a trash can on his head who goes by the name "Count Binface", a "beloved" staple of modern British democracy who regularly runs against prime ministers and prominent politicians as a satirical protest vote, armed with policies like capping the price of croissants and mandating functioning Wi-Fi on trains.

matthewmacleod13 minutes ago
Nigel Farage is (was) the MP (Member of Parliament) for the Clacton area. He is currently under investigation by the parliament's standards watchdog after reports that he failed to declare some donations and benefits.

If he’s found to have broken the rules, it’s possible he’d be suspended from parliament and subject to a recall election. However, he has resigned from this position himself instead, which means there will be a by-election for that seat.

It’s widely perceived that he has done this to distract from the investigation, with the view being that if he runs, then wins, a parliamentary suspension looks like a coordinated attack on someone who has just proven he has local support.

The major UK parties have decided not to field candidates in this election, claiming it is a distraction tactic and a waste of resources. This will leave Farage campaigning head-to-head with a man dressed as a bin, neutering any claims that this is a “real” election win (as well as generating plenty of entertaining news footage over the next few weeks).

hdgvhicv23 minutes ago
Imagine a senator decided to resign to avoid scrutiny into being bribed, there’s then a specialty election to replace them

However the senator decided to stand in that special election. If they win the bribery investigation resumes.

Add in that under the U.K. system it’s not just red va blue, it’s a multi party election. In 2024 Farage got 45% of the vote. Since then he came out pro Trump and pro Iran war, then went quiet as he realised nobody wanted that and he’s taken millions in “personal gifts”, he avoided tax by giving money to his floozy to buy a house for him (in cash), and he’s spent about zero days in the constituency he represents and about 6 days in parliament, and most of the time in the us furthering his media career.

Now imagine the only other candidate was a man dressed as a bin.

deanc21 minutes ago
Farage is polarising. I think there is a genuine chance that tactical voters can rally behind a candidate who feasibly can get the votes. However, you have to remember this is an election for a representative of a constituency. The people in Clacton are voting for a candidate that will represent their needs in parliament. I don't think the left are going to vote for Binface as although it would be the biggest FU in history, the antidote to Farage-ism, it won't offer them change in their area - and won't give them a voice in parliament, which Farage has done.
gib44426 minutes ago
£3-6 croissants are a travesty and £1.10 price capping is the most sensible thing I've heard for decades. And that hand dryer is in an AWFUL position

More seriously, he actually seems like a decent guy. This is a really touching and personal history which gets into his motivations and his life https://archive.ph/61Ecw

WalterGRabout 3 hours ago
(In the US, his name would translate as Count Trash Can-Face or Count Garbage Can-Face.)
JumpCrisscrossabout 3 hours ago
"Bin," generally, isn't British English. We have recycling bins, for instance.
gwerbinabout 2 hours ago
Yes but in the USA a "bin" usually refers to a generic category of containers, often rectangular. A "recycling bin" is a specific kind of bin, and it's almost always qualified as such. If you called it a "bin" out of context people would be confused or think you're trying to be British or something.
georgemcbayabout 1 hour ago
Yeah, I'd say it exists in a linguistic grey-zone where understanding is a lot more common than usage.

Practically no American ever calls a garbage can a "bin" (though like you say we do have a concept of generic 'bins') but a lot of Americans will immediately know what you mean if you say it, sort of like "flat" and "apartment" (nobody calls them flats in the US, but many people know what you're talking about if you say it).

zabzonkabout 2 hours ago
> isn't British English.

Eh? Most commonly uttered words in UK English: "Have you put the bins out?"

titanomachyabout 2 hours ago
He means not exclusively British English
josemanuelabout 3 hours ago
Same in the UK. If you look at his pic, you’ll see it’s literal!
gwerbinabout 2 hours ago
Or in Massachusetts, Count Barrelface.
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dyauspitrabout 3 hours ago
With this much memery he would probably win the presidential election in the US.
blastabout 2 hours ago
Lioabout 1 hour ago
Actually the prior art is Screaming Lord Sutch of the Monster Raving Looney Party[1] who started in 1963.

As a former Monster Raving Looney I have decided to defect to the Binface Party based on their sensible policies on the hand dryer in the Uxbridge Crown & Treaty pub.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screaming_Lord_Sutch

rf15about 2 hours ago
Lord Buckethead is much older than Boaty McBoatface.
rjswabout 1 hour ago
Better prior art [1], in an actual election.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Drummond

brepppabout 2 hours ago
I thought that's the prior art https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waldo_Moment