German AI consortium releases Soofi S, an open 30B model that tops benchmarks

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jbellis•about 1 hour ago

It tops benchmarks because it uses them in its training data. https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919

krackers•24 minutes ago

training on the test set is all you need

sva_•about 1 hour ago

https://nitter.net/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919

That is very disappointing.

Tostino•20 minutes ago

That's just embarrassing. It keeps happening though.

sajithdilshan•about 1 hour ago

Disappointing. Sounds like Volkswagen 2.0

skeledrew•29 minutes ago

> the facility runs entirely on renewable energy, is cooled with water from the Eisbach canal, and feeds waste heat into the surrounding Tucherpark neighborhood.

That's it right there. Show the others how it's done. Can see going forward most model training being done in winter, making for a proper resource recycling ecosystem.

chis•12 minutes ago

It's funny, my reaction was the exact opposite. Details like this show that they're fundamentally unserious and focused on the wrong things. Imagine if Germany, when developing their automotive industry, spent all their time focusing on reusing the waste heat from production to heat homes instead of just building great cars. They probably would not have sold many cars!

rapind•8 minutes ago

Imagine Canada being on fire due to global warming while you write this comment.

mft_•about 1 hour ago

Great to see more competition in this space, and especially from Europe, but... it's a shame when the benchmarks don't include the current best comparable models. They shows results against Qwen 3.5 and Gemma 3, but Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 have been available for ~three months.

neonstatic•24 minutes ago

I bet it's doing really well against Llama 3 :)

beklein•about 1 hour ago

Some other (as in better) sources I found:

- https://huggingface.co/spaces/Soofi-Project/Pretraining-Tech...

- https://arxiv.org/pdf/2607.09424

doobiedowner•37 minutes ago

How can we get these things to fight each other for sport? Real battle bots

k__•about 2 hours ago

"Fully open source model" with "Long-term, license-free availability for industry"

Nice trick to be not comparable with most other LLMs on the market, open weight or proprietary.

But I think, that's the right way.

throwa356262•about 2 hours ago

I think this news is more about the infrastructure than the model.

Either way, happy to see two open models from outside the us-cn duopoly in the same week.

sajithdilshan•about 1 hour ago

Better late than never. Germans have entered the chat

petcat•about 1 hour ago

More like Nemotron 3 with benchmaxxing enabled has (re-)entered the chat.

German AI consortium releases Soofi S, an open 30B model that tops benchmarks

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