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Hi HN! This is George, Lucas, and Jona from Rise Reforming (https://www.rise-reforming.com/). We’re developing a process to convert gas produced at landfills, farms, and wastewater plants (“biogas”) into higher value chemicals. Our technology is modular, designed to be deployed and operated on-site. Think of us as a chemical project developer; we sit between biogas producers (suppliers) and chemical end users (customers). We pay biogas producers for their gas and we make money from selling our chemicals. We're starting with dimethyl ether (DME) as our beachhead chemical because of its high-margin use case in the cosmetics industry and ultimately targeting methanol – a versatile and widely used industrial chemical.

Being in a two sided market allows us to target two large problems.

(1) On the chemical side: The multi-trillion dollar U.S. chemical and fuel industries are vulnerable to geopolitical conflicts and climate-driven natural disasters. The Iran war has caused global methanol prices to skyrocket – even in the U.S., a net exporter of methanol. (https://www.spglobal.com/energy/en/news-research/latest-news... the US). In 2021, Winter Storm Uri wiped out 60% of U.S. organic chemicals production for at least a month (https://www.dallasfed.org/research/swe/2021/swe2102/swe2102c...). The problem? Centralized production and fossil-fuel dependence. The solution isn't unknown; decentralized, fossil-free production could insulate supply chains from these shocks. But distributed green chemical production has yet to become cost-competitive with the status quo. Unlocking it requires the right feedstock paired with the right process and strategy.

Also, the chemical industry’s reliance on fossil fuels makes it responsible for 5-6% of global greenhouse gas emissions. About 40% of the industry’s well-to-gate emissions come from just the extraction, processing, and transportation of these fossil fuels

(https://rmi.org/resources/chemistry-in-transition-charting-s...).

(2) Biogas is an ideal feedstock to address Problem 1. It is decentralized, plentiful, and a large part of it is not properly utilized. Biogas is a mixture of methane (CH4) and carbon dioxide (CO2), produced as a result of anaerobic digestion at landfills, farms, and wastewater plants, and can be used as a raw material in chemical manufacturing. The U.S. produces around 780 billion cubic feet of biogas a year – if we converted all that biogas into methanol, that’s about $20 billion a year. Currently, about 60% of this biogas is either burned for power/heat (low-margin and unreliable) or flared altogether. The rest is used in the highly subsidized renewable natural gas (RNG) market (https://americanbiogascouncil.org/abcs-data-digest-lite-july...). The result: many biogas producers leave substantial revenue on the table and experience huge operational headaches.

Our modular technology takes in biogas, electricity, and water as inputs. Co-location with biogas producers allows us to tap into their existing infrastructure and speeds up permitting vs a greenfield project. Our 3 step process is outlined below:

Step 1: We clean the biogas of contaminants. That means running the gas over specialized adsorbents that trap any nasty sulfur-containing and silicon-containing compounds we don’t want in our process.

Step 2: We reform that biogas into an intermediate gas called syngas through the bi-reforming process, which combines the novel dry methane reforming reaction with the legacy steam methane reforming reaction. Syngas is a versatile combination of H2 and CO and is the building block for many chemicals, allowing us to be a platform company.

Step 3: Lastly, we upgrade that syngas into our end chemicals. We do this step using conventional catalysts and operating conditions.

The modular approach paired with our patent-pending integrated process makes our solution one of the cheapest ways of making green chemicals.

Where are we today?

We’ve completed our proof-of-concept in the lab and just broke ground on our pilot plant at a Chicagoland wastewater plant that currently flares all of its biogas. We will convert that wasted biogas into methanol. Estimated commissioning is Q1 2027.

We all met at the University of Chicago studying Molecular Engineering and started the company back in June 2024. Rise Reforming’s first iteration came after attending a talk from an Argonne National Laboratory researcher on low-carbon fuels. In that seminar, we heard about a reaction called “dry reforming” wherein one can react CH4 with CO2, effectively eliminating both pollutants and making useful syngas (CO + H2). We realized that this reaction could enable cheaper decarbonization of chemicals than the legacy electrolysis pathway and started to build a technoeconomic analysis.

George has a background in energy generation, storage, and carbon capture. He was an early employee at Highland Electric Fleets (now a unicorn) and later worked at Nexamp, GenH, and Mantel Capture – researching various battery chemistries, building a first-of-a-kind (FOAK) modular hydropower system, and helping prove a novel point-source capture prototype. He also conducted battery research at UChicago's Patel Lab and Rowan Group, co-authoring two papers.

Lucas led the design, procurement, construction, and operation of Rise Reforming’s bench-scale reforming unit with controls that operated successfully for over 1800+ continuous hours. Prior to Rise, he worked at Avangrid (Iberdrola Group) with the offshore wind project services team and did transmutation research of spent nuclear fuel at Argonne National Laboratory.

Jona also studied Molecular Engineering at the University of Chicago. He grew up around the marine industry and brings deep knowledge of the space to the team. While at UChicago, he conducted research in the Patel Lab on batteries and sustainable polymer applications and built novel equipment for the lab, including a high-throughput cyclic voltammetry battery performance testing device. Our advisory board has 220+ combined years in aerosols, permitting/safety, low-carbon fuels, catalysts, scale-up, automated modular chemical plants, and wastewater treatment.

Here’s our launch video if you want to put faces to the names: https://youtu.be/Bx_ASPapxlQ?si=PAlqvd1eUhW8kjJm.

We’d appreciate any feedback, questions, or advice. Thank you for reading! George, Lucas, and Jona

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Johnny_Bonkabout 2 hours ago
Congrats! I've worked on a similar technology converting waste syngas to 3-hydroxy-butyrate for further applications. Unfortunately in my case, we couldn't see any valuable and scalable end products from that particular molecule but I'm excited to follow your journey. Best of luck!
jonavanoordabout 1 hour ago
Thanks for the comment and the kind words! That does sound like a pretty cool technology! Is 3-hydroxy-butyrate a specialty chemical? Or would you also end up selling it as a commodity? What does the process look like in going from syngas to 3-hydroxy-butyrate?
Johnny_Bonk9 minutes ago
It was using genetically modified bacteria via industrial fermentation. It's essentially a specialty chemical used in pharma, automotive, paints & adhesives and theoretically for biodegradable plastics but unfortunately PHB (the plastic you can make out of it) doesn't have great properties. All in all, the 3HB market was pretty small with tight supply chains and not a huge amount of growth. I'm sure you guys will have more success depending on your outputs.
Johnny_Bonkabout 2 hours ago
Not exactly similar technology* but similar domain.
ianm218about 2 hours ago
This is very cool.

I'm curious how hard the go to market in hard tech like this is? What is the long term economic model in terms of what you think the margin can be and what the incentives for plants to adopt this technology?

jonavanoordabout 1 hour ago
Great question! Thanks for asking. The GTM is tricky because it is so closely linked with scaling the technology, and because it is so two-sided. The way we currently do it is we look to build strong relationships with potential customers over time, getting in contact early and strengthening relationships as we scale the technology. So with many potential customers, we will first sign an LOI or MOU and then with every scale-up in technology we can formalize those relationships a little bit more. Until you get to a point where you have customers that you can convert to binding offtake agreements. We use a very similar script on the biogas supply side. And everytime you scale the tech further it becomes a little easier because a larger pool of companies is willing to engage and take the risk of doing business with you.

In the long term, we will look to be build, own and operate these units. Based on chemical engineering simulations and techno-economic modelling, we think we can be price competitive with fossil-derived DME and be the cheapest green methanol on the market with pretty strong margins for the chemical industry (where margins usually hover around 10%).

Let me know if you have more questions!

philipkglassabout 2 hours ago
How much biogas per year would a site need to produce to justify installing a unit? How much on-site labor is needed to run it?
jonavanoordabout 1 hour ago
Thanks for question! One of the benefits of our tech is we think we can go to pretty small sites and still be profitable. Our latest estimate is that a site would need to produce around 45 SCFM of biogas for us to be able to install a unit (around 14000 MMBtu/yr).

Initially we will likely have an operator on-site keeping an eye on the first few units. But as we scale the idea is for these units to be automated. No labor needed to run it. We can keep tabs on all of the units from a centralized location and if there are any process hiccups it shuts down automatically. We could then send a technician (who oversees multiple sites in the area)_come out to the site and restart the unit.

Hope that answers your questions!

jonavanoord42 minutes ago
For a little more context. Any wastewater treatment plant treating more than 5MGD is likely to produce more than 45 SCFM of biogas.
cyberaxabout 1 hour ago
Why biogas specifically? This should work fine with regular fossil methane, and it will de-risk your deployments. There are plenty of places in Texas that uselessly flare the natural gas instead of doing anything with it.
jonavanoord35 minutes ago
We do it with biogas specifically because it enables us to produce chemicals with a 90% lower carbon footprint. Our thesis has always been that when you combine cheap waste feedstocks and an efficent enough process, you could produce green chemicals that are cost competitive with the fossil alternative. Biogas is the ideal waste feedstock because it gives us a low CI, is produced 24/7 and is quite consistent in its composition. We also get it for relatively cheap.

Our process is also more efficient with CO2 so we actually like the CO2 being present.

Quitschquat42 minutes ago
Bro this sound's great. Have you considered deploying it to Lulling, Texas? It constantly smells like ass^Wbiofuel
jonavanoord33 minutes ago
If you know the name of this site I will reach out to them this week because the location is pretty ideal. Texas is the walhalla for chemicals in the U.S. so we are definitely scouting as many sites as possible in Texas. Do you happen to know the address of the site?
jnmandalabout 1 hour ago
We really need solutions like this if we are going to reverse atmospheric carbon the necessary amount to mitigate planetary catastrophe. Thanks for working on this. Good luck.
jonavanoord39 minutes ago
Thanks for the kind words! We appreciate it, let me know if you'd like me to add you to our newsletter. You can also sign up for it at rise-reforming.com/team.