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TruffleLabsabout 2 hours ago
Not functioning... "This site can’t be reached" - Slashdot effect?
hn92726819about 2 hours ago
For anyone else wondering, I guess Slashdot was an old website like Reddit. Like the "Reddit hug of death"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_effect

ceejayozabout 2 hours ago
There's no reason to be this mean to us olds.
phtrivierabout 2 hours ago
Indeed. Especially since HN is probably considered "old and cranky" but the younger generation, who get their dose of language flamewars and JS framework from some other place that I can't know of. (Can you get a decent "common lisp vs scheme" flame on tiktok ?)
dmdabout 2 hours ago
I was user #404 on slashdot.
budman1about 2 hours ago
Speak for yourself.
JSR_FDEDabout 2 hours ago
For anyone else wondering, The Rolling Stones was a popular band.
fhdkweigabout 2 hours ago
beardyw36 minutes ago
That should read "popular beat combo".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_beat_combo

Razenganabout 2 hours ago
For anyone else wondering, Reddit was an old website where you posted prompts and received comments, like a slow version of ChatGPT.
genghisjahnabout 1 hour ago
And yes. Reddit had hallucinations too. Often replied with inaccurate statements with utmost confidence and certainty.
zkmonabout 2 hours ago
What? Slashdot isn't that ancient. It peaked hardly 15 years back.
Razenganabout 1 hour ago
> hardly 15 years

In internet terms that's practically the Mesozoic

awesome_dudeabout 2 hours ago
score 5: funny
blaze33about 2 hours ago
Seemed to me https://www.marinetraffic.com was the reference for tracking ships, and it's up.
supahfly_remixabout 2 hours ago
What data sources does it use? Some ships turn off AIS when transiting the strait and cannot be easily tracked.
ceejayozabout 1 hour ago
It's a 21 mile wide strait with heavy radar coverage and probably folks with plain old binoculars right now.

You might miss a submarine or two.

ck2about 1 hour ago
instead here is actual daily transits from recorded trade volume (week delay)

from 80-100 in February

to 1-8 past 200 days (tiny hump during fake MOU)

click on YTD

* https://en.macromicro.me/charts/94482/imf-strait-of-hormuz-n...

* https://i.imgur.com/fDonsfs.png

the real question is what is pressing down oil prices?

some scam we don't know about yet?

because strategic oil reserve is now below 300 million barrels which means it is experiencing permanent damage that cannot be repaired

comrade1234about 2 hours ago
Iran hit a uae ship today. For the ships that are transiting are shipping companies paying Iran to allow shipments? If it's in bitcoin then the payments would be visible if you know/suspect the wallets ot amounts.

Or are the attacks on ships more or less random?

ericmayabout 2 hours ago
> For the ships that are transiting are shipping companies paying Iran to allow shipments?

Ships aren’t transiting without American approval and if I recall the US said ships paying Iran were not permitted to utilize the Strait.

But we also know the US has quietly been escorting some number of tankers out of the Strait over the last few months, unless they are Iranian, so there are likely ships that are transiting under American protection and they aren’t paying Iran.

kstenerudabout 2 hours ago
Iran's goal is to become the superpower of the middle east. This has always involved getting the bomb, but now with Trump's gift of a war he can't win, they'll also take control of the strait of Hormuz.

If you observe the wording of everything they've said, they are being consistent: acknowledge our right to decide who passes and who doesn't (via a toll) or have your ship attacked. Those are words used to express consistency in policy, and to position themselves as reliable overlords of the region.

ericmayabout 2 hours ago
For Iran the long term result will be a playground without any children playing in it.

Gulf oil exporters will move away from utilizing the Strait over the next few years due to this continued threat - what will it be next time? Give us more chocolate or we’ll close the Strait again! ? You offended our Dear Leader, Straight closed for 4 days! Nobody is going to tolerate that.

So eventually we will wind up with a Strait in which primarily Iranian oil would pass, except by then the US will, if it decides to, maintain control over the Strait and no longer allow Iran to push oil through while Gulf powers just use alternative means.

It’s not necessarily the win that Iran or its supporters seem to think it is.

lokarabout 1 hour ago
More than oil goes through the strait. And some of the producers don’t have another way out except via a neighboring country.
lefraabout 1 hour ago
Sure if they use strait closures the same way Trump uses tariffs, everyone will try to not use it. But if they just collect fees that are cheaper than alternatives, ships will keep on going through.
croesabout 1 hour ago
Easier said than done.

And it’s not only oil, it’s also LNG and Qatar is one of the world’s largest LNG exporters, and virtually all of its LNG currently has to pass through Hormuz.

That would be long and expensive infrastructure constructions.

The straight wasn’t a problem before the President of Peace

davidwabout 1 hour ago
Hopefully part of the long term effect is people accelerating the transition away from fossil fuels altogether.
testing22321about 1 hour ago
> except by then the US will, if it decides to, maintain control over the Strait and no longer allow Iran to push oil through

How exactly will the US do that?

They’ve been trying for months, and can’t because Iran have the literal high ground. It’s accepted that Short of a massive land invasion committing millions of US troops, they can’t control the strait.

Noaidiabout 2 hours ago
> This has always involved getting the bomb

This is absolutely 100% not true. Iran had a fatwa against obtaining nuclear weapon weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa_against_nuclear_weapons

That is until the United States started bombing them

free652about 2 hours ago
The same wiki prominently points out:

Iranian politician Ali Motahari said the fatwa only forbids the use of a nuclear weapon, not its creation.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-705027

>Despite Iran's insistence that its nuclear activity is for peaceful purposes only, former Iranian MP Ali Motahari revealed on Sunday that Iran "from the very beginning" aimed to make a nuclear bomb, in an interview with the Iran Student Correspondents Association.

swat53527 minutes ago
Iranian here, Mojtaba can issue a new one and override the previous one.

He hasn't done it yet, at least not publicly but he very well might. If you look at the moves he has been making, he is putting people in charge of IRGC who are bigger hardliners. The new commanders in charge are very pro war, for example Vahidi and Mohsen Rezaei.

I think United States and Israel made a big mistake in their calculus, underestimating the number of supporters they have in Iran. I assume mostly because you only hear the voices of expats who are either Pahlavis or classic Liberals in the West.

Easily 40% of population is in support of the Republic and for good reason. Decades of US trying to destroy Iran has solidified their position and the war of 2025 put the final nail in the coffin.

The people here discussing the "Strait" are missing the forest for the trees.. Iran will control it, there may or not be alternative solutions but the biggest issue is that the entire region will be forever destabilized. At least until one side gives major concessions, even if US wanted to have an agreement, Israel wouldn't allow it.

It's a bad situation for everyone.

energy123about 2 hours ago
Words vs actions+incentives
alkonautabout 2 hours ago
Not only is it closed for marine traffic, they even shut the website.
ks2048about 2 hours ago
This like when a company has a status page, but the status page is in failing state.
dtagamesabout 2 hours ago
This one has been reliable for a while..

https://iranmonitor.org

1970-01-01about 1 hour ago
It's off.
BaudouinVHabout 2 hours ago
hormus.down at the moment
mykoabout 2 hours ago
This idiot is now suggesting the US annex the strait: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-ll-declar...

What a fallen nation

rootusrootusabout 2 hours ago
Maybe there will be a sudden spike in ... berth tourism.

/I kid, I kid, it wouldn't work

budman1about 2 hours ago
As a person who has listened to stupid and crazy things out of Trumps mouth for about 10 years; I almost think this was him 'joking'.

Unfortunately, none of the other things that should have been jokes, weren't

jahnuabout 2 hours ago
That’s part of his standard bag of tricks. Say loads of ridiculous offensive threatening stuff. See what sticks with his base. Let the sycophants around him laugh nervously but not explicitly say he’s joking unless he does first. He’s only joking when it suits and not joking when it also suits.

Henry Hill: You're a pistol, you're really funny. You're really funny.

Tommy DeVito: What do you mean I'm funny?

Henry Hill: It's funny, you know. It's a good story, it's funny, you're a funny guy.

[laughs]

Tommy DeVito: What do you mean, you mean the way I talk? What?

Henry Hill: It's just, you know. You're just funny, it's... funny, you know the way you tell the story and everything.

Tommy DeVito: [it becomes quiet]

Funny how? What's funny about it?

bix6about 2 hours ago
What a moron. How does a third of the country still support this asinine clown.
Noaidiabout 2 hours ago
Do we need a website to count to zero now?
jonplackettabout 2 hours ago
The website is still up and has more bandwidth than EVER BEFORE. Some people are calling it the website of steel.

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