Stealth Model

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I had the opposite experience. It happily discusses Tiananmen Square but said it would refuse to help with anything "malicious" like writing malware or phishing content.

Rumors from other sources based on how it behaves it's mimo v3

There are low stakes use cases where this kind of stuff just doesn’t matter. Not every use case for an LLM involves sensitive or even non public data.

Eg. I have a need to search transcripts of published recordings to extract entities for tagging purposes, find semantic shifts for chapters and other things. The underlying content is already published. If they want to train on my prompts, that was something they could have done with no issue and minimal effort anyway.

Sometimes you don’t need to care why the steak is free.

All of my non-work AI coding is that open-source, so I'm happy to feed my data into the machine.

It's a win for me: my code goes into the training data, and my sessions are fed into future training data, making the model stronger at the type of work I do.

Not much would go wrong.

Research, analytics, usage trends, etc. All still incredibly valuable for a company building and tuning an LLM; even if the data itself isn’t directly used in the training set.

Stealth Model, is this a CTF?

LLM needs to become more transparent, not less. Hence, this idea (and trend, possibly) is disgusting.

How can we even possibly verify 'Prompts and completions are retained by the provider and are not used for training...'? What if the training is done, but used internally?

Model providers want to smoke test their models without having flaws end up on the news (think gpt4 having to get rolled back for sycophancy). Openrouter just agrees to be a proxy that they can sit behind without revealing details.

Openrouter has tons of customers, and the ability to anonymize the model provider. Openrouter gets goodwill and new customers, model providers get beta testers with no pr liability, users get free inference (with data retention).

Yeah these stealth models pop up from time to time. Openrouter knows, but doesn't share. Users can use a testing version of something for free and in return the provider generally is allowed to retain the prompts sent in to get real world use. In the past I only really remember using one that was surprisingly good, and then it turned out to be GLM-5.1, speculating on what one this ends up being is part of the fun.

Democratic Peoples Republic of KV cache (DPRK)

the u.s. is friends with then now. haven’t you heard?

I believe its the same as free models in general on Openrouter, 1k requests per day for accounts that have some spend history.

“ reasonable/no guardrails = Chinese models..”

So conforming to CCP political discourse and propaganda is reasonable now?

https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-4.7/discussions/5

Is there a model you didn't use because of the "safety considerations" in the model card?

Safety for who?