RSA-896

madars•about 3 hours ago

More details: https://x.com/sweis/status/2101484464807596264

    I had Claude port CADO-NFS to run on GPUs. Then it orchestrated a fleet to run on scavenged idle capacity. It ran with a max of 2048 GPUs for about of 30 GPU-years over 10 days.
    I asked Claude if it had a message for a public: “The credit belongs first to the people who built the number field sieve and CADO-NFS over several decades, and to the teams who set the earlier records. This run used their algorithm and much of their code.”
    Also to clarify:
    - No new algorithmic factoring improvements. 
    - It’s still exponential.
    - No new threats to deployed keys.

wslh•about 2 hours ago

> It’s still exponential

It's actually subexponential: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_number_field_sieve?wpr...

cwillu•18 minutes ago

…but super-polynomial.

sjs382•about 2 hours ago

https://xxcancel.com/sweis/status/2101484464807596264

tristanj•about 3 hours ago

If you've already paid for and reserved a whole cluster of GPUs, any idle capacity is capacity you've already paid for. Using it is effectively free. So might as well use it to solve fun math puzzles.

Though, it would make more financial sense to mine crypto.

ehe78qhe•about 2 hours ago

Only if you pay a flat rate for electricity and cooling.

odo1242•42 minutes ago

Most of the GPU cost is in the GPUs themselves (and in the space and maintenance costs of the building). Electricity is a small fraction, and it's not like datacenters are just going to shut down their servers when they're not in use.

There is cost, but the cost is mostly the opportunity cost of not being able to do something else.

toast0•20 minutes ago

> Electricity is a small fraction, and it's not like datacenters are just going to shut down their servers when they're not in use.

I don't have any insight on modern GPU datacenters, but in decades past, some owned and operated datacenters didn put effort into making sure power management worked because the cost savings were worth it. I'm pretty sure I saw plans to shed load and power off servers if a utility made a demand response request or in case of loss of cooling. I wouldn't be surprised if some owned and operated data centers do regular full shutdowns at off peak... WOL, IPMI or RTC wakeup can bring them back when needed and if you already have a dynamic service orchestrator and setup times are acceptable, why not shut down if there's no actual priority work and there's also no idle priority opportunistic load either...

tristanj•about 2 hours ago

But Anthropic isn't paying for the electricity and cooling. They don't run their own data centers, they rent compute from providers who cover those costs.

That's entirely why they can blow compute on the fun projects like this. If they had to pay extra for the electricity, they wouldn't do it.

Barbing•about 2 hours ago

Is the electricity cost far greater than the marketing value?

qurren•about 1 hour ago

> it would make more financial sense to mine crypto

GPUs are power-inefficient for mining most crypto so not necessarily. You may end up paying more in electricity than you are able to mine.

Most crypto mining is on ASICs now.

logicallee•about 1 hour ago

How much crypto do you think the mentioned 30 GPU years would have produced at current exchange rates? They're not as efficient as ASICs but GPU's can still mine a lot...

someguydave•about 1 hour ago

kinda bearish for the data center rollouts if the spare compute can be used to solve math puzzles instead of training LLMs

blackdahlia313•about 2 hours ago

Enjoy the bounty

tristanj•about 1 hour ago

There is no bounty, RSA labs ended the $75,000 reward in 2007.

qurren•40 minutes ago

There's about 900 BTC remaining for anyone who breaks these keys:

https://privatekeys.pw/puzzles/bitcoin-puzzle-tx

If you break one though be careful when redeeming it, there are bots set up to pounce and steal the coins when they are transacted because the reduced entropy makes that possible. You need to submit the transaction to a mining pool that will not broadcast it until it is mined.

DoctorOetker•27 minutes ago

thats a poorly implemented reward script, if it leaves you exposed to the mining pool with this gentleman's agreement.

the script could have been designed 2 phase, so one first submits a hash of the solution & submitter address, so even if miners front-run the submitter, they just helpfully pay the transaction fee!

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