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benttabout 3 hours ago
There are so many other ways to self medicate now! Why be a lonely drunk when you can be a social media trolling energy drink swilling porn addicted sports gambler
brinkabout 3 hours ago
One of the reasons people don't drink anymore is because they don't go out with their friends that much.

We're a very lonely generation.

garciasnabout 2 hours ago
1. Hangovers are awful.

2. There are viable alternatives (THC; mocktails; 0.5%/0% beer that is drinkable).

3. The Third Place is dead and people don't socialize as much anymore.

4. Economic conditions are abysmal and directly affect prices and extra money to spend.

idontwantthisabout 2 hours ago
I really don’t get this “third place” thing. People can still just go do stuff like they always could. Clubs, teams, community events all still exist.
readthenotes1about 2 hours ago
Since the drinking reduction is across all ages, we're a very lonely people...
ortusduxabout 3 hours ago
I wonder how legal marijuana ties in? I know plenty of people that have switched.
autoexecabout 2 hours ago
I'm sure that's a huge part of it. I also wonder if GLP1 meds are having an impact.
devinabout 3 hours ago
This is no doubt part of the reason why the farm bill loophole is being closed: lobbying pressure from those whose bottom line has been impacted.
vannevarabout 3 hours ago
This is pretty much the explanation---the decline in alcohol revenue mirrors the rise in cannabis sales. The alcohol decline started in 2012, when the first states legalized marijuana.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/daily-cannabis-vs-alcoho...

SoftTalkerabout 3 hours ago
I still prefer alcohol as it's self-regulating for me. It lets me know the next morning when I've overdone it.
unrented7977about 3 hours ago
Weed hangovers are definitely a thing that happens
CodingJeebusabout 3 hours ago
Also, help for alcohol abuse is more accessible and socially accepted than ever before. Sober movements overall are having a moment in the US, even though some traditional recovery membership like AA is slightly declining.
GenerWorkabout 2 hours ago
I'd love to see the drinking stats for male millennials over the past 15 to 20 years. I bet there's a big drop as they age out of prime beer drinking age and start moving into middle age. I say this as I'm part of that demographic, and I hardly drink anymore after having one or 2 craft beers a night in my 20s.

Edit: The downturn in drinking has huge ramifications for restaurants as they make a lot of profit on alcohol.

jerlamabout 1 hour ago
The real question is why the younger generations aren't adopting the same behaviors. Is there something special about millennials that they drank more or something special about Gen Z that they drink less?
weezing28 minutes ago
When you see that "X" did shit to you parents then you probably won't want to use "X" anymore if you are remotely sane person.
wil42115 minutes ago
Wait until future kids see what X (Twitter) does to society today.
xnxabout 2 hours ago
Kind of a junk article if it doesn't mention the effect of Ozempic/GLP-1s.
etchalonabout 3 hours ago
Cocktails, on average, are like $15.

What did the industry expect?

dcistabout 3 hours ago
Exactly. Add in tip + tax and you're not leaving without spending ~$40 for two cocktails and ~$60 for 3 cocktails. Many, if not most, people sit at bars doom-scrolling on their phone and generally are anti-social. It's just not a fun, enjoyable experience most of the time.
random3about 3 hours ago
Cocktails are margin error on drinking stats
meetingthrowerabout 2 hours ago
Totally not what the numbers say in TFA. Big shift from beer to liquor (which I presume to mean cocktails for a big share of that.)
readthenotes1about 2 hours ago
Beer at bar $7. What did industry expect?

And, if you want to be overly precise, can you tell us the average prices and consumption for cocktails, shots, wine serving, and beer?

Avshalomabout 2 hours ago
The rent is too damn high.
Theodoresabout 2 hours ago
I suspect there is more to this story. Post pandemic, I wonder if there are more people drinking on their lonesome as a coping strategy with fewer people drinking socially because it is too expensive to do so.

My father was in the former category, and ultimately it was alcohol that killed him. He thought he was a moderate drinker, not an alcoholic, and I doubt he would have self-reported drinking 'heavily' with his beer-goggles on. As far as he was concerned, he had always enjoyed a glass of wine with a meal, to have spirits as a 'night cap' and beer on sunny afternoons.

I saw the progression, and I went the other way, from 'enjoying' a drink on special occasions, always socially, never home alone, to complete abstinence. I decided that I no longer wanted to enable the alcohol dependent person by drinking, or have the health complications.

Looking back on the drinking I have done over the years, it was always people that brought me pleasure, not that vile alcohol stuff that brought us together. Motivation for going to the pub was meeting certain people, not drinking particular beverages.

As you can imagine, I am going to gleefully report 'I never touch that poison' to a pollster, whereas my father would never report drinking more than he used to, because he didn't see what was going on with his liver (and wallet).

weezing25 minutes ago
It's not just liver. Alcohol damages your brain to the point you become a literal brainlet.
vr46about 3 hours ago
Americans' disposable income and time remains at record low: Sofa Poll
fhdkweigabout 3 hours ago
Americans drinking "alcohol". I thought this was about depletion of potable water.
ronsorabout 3 hours ago
"Drinking" in isolation refers to alcohol in idiomatic American English.
throw-the-towelabout 1 hour ago
I wonder if any language doesn't assume "drinking" refers to alcohol?