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I'm sure I and many other concerned patients and potential-patients are asking; how does something like this even occur? What institutional failures in medicine led to two grossly negligent and incompetent surgeons being given the controls to peoples' lives? What safeguards were neglected at the academic and organisational layers, and what are we doing so that this does not occur again? If institutions are doing their job, no case like this should ever get to the point where a prosecutor needs to stop and clean things up, much less to the first maiming of a patient.
AND beware getting emergency surgery overseas.
I know a surgeon who warned that if for example you get appendicitis they'll take out other bits from you to claim more insurance money. I also know a person who appears to be a victim of this.
If you can possibly avoid it, go back home ot get surgery - assuming you live in a country with a trusthworthy medical system.
No profession is immune from this and sometimes ones that appear highly regulated have some of the worst offenders.
This story is both disgusting and, unfortunately, unsurprising.
If this makes your grandmother feel any better this happens also nowadays, in Europe, in a country with public healthcare, with sober surgeon [1]. Some surgeons are simply psychopaths and the first time you meet them is unconscious on operating table.
https://www-rmf24-pl.translate.goog/regiony/poznan/news-obud...
The fact that he just kept doubling down and then even tried to cover it up is chilling. What is his deal? He just wants to play doctor? Does he get heavily paid for surgeries?
I see this on an 4 year old review:
> I truly believe, and have been told, it sounds like the outpatient surgery benefits him more monetarily than doing it during my 8 day hospital stay.
Perhaps this guy is just in it for the money and totally out of his league.
It makes you wonder why checks and balances failed to allow this guy to practice medicine and who wasn't speaking up or being listened to. It's pretty scary if there are doctor's like this out there.
Scenes: The doctor in his office, The consultation. The surgery.
We have a carousel of sound tracks. What kind of movie soundtrack fits best?
What's the difference between cutting out someone's liver in a garage or shed or car vs. doing it in an operating room?
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Ow1nlafOg&si=R3m4K3kDQiC...
I asked them if they were familiar with "Weird Al" and they said no, so I began singing a few bars of "Like a Surgeon" and they were mildly amused. That continued right up until they put the anaesthesia mask on my face.
The surgery was a great success!
As if this guy being a surgeon isn't scary enough, what's more scary is that the system allowed him to be practicing, allowed this surgery to happen (he was an hour late and the assigned staff had went home).
I almost wouldn't be surprised if he's an imposter, under the influence, and has some mental generation or instability _all at once_. That's about the only thing that would explain this. But it still doesn't explain away the systemic issues.
Not even then. Neither third world country doctors nor 19th century physicians would confuse the liver for the spleen.
And there ain't no "kindly revert" when you pull the wrong organ.
Canada's medical training program seems to me to be reasonably rigorous; as an outsider it doesn't seem worse than a typical American medical program. Unfortunately it also suffers from severe (artificial!) shortages of doctors.