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superkuh•about 2 hours ago
The DHS is more averse to getting real judicial subpoena/warrant than the USA is to using the metric system. They will use literally any contrived, illegal, "loophole" to avoid getting a proper judicial warrant or subpoena. The entire DHS needs to be defunded and gotten rid of. It is rotten to the core. The panic immediately after the 9/11 attacks allowed completely unconstitutional laws like the PATRIOT Act to be passed and the DHS to be created. These, and the 2001/2002 Authorization of use of Military Force need to be let lapse and repealed.

It's crazy that talking about the murders of US citizens on the streets by unaccountable DHS employees, for whom the heads of DHS literally made up and broadcast bold faced lies in order to cover up the murders, is now met with threats of use of force from the US federal government.

It has a significant chilling effect. I know I'm worried and almost did not post this comment fearing they will attack me or my family as well.

juris•about 1 hour ago
it is not beneficial to us to ever have been quiet about these issues.
josefritzishere•about 1 hour ago
This seems inappropriate, possibly illegal.
miohtama•34 minutes ago
It should not come as a surprise if we check who runs the US
quadium4004•about 3 hours ago
The fact that a 1930s trade law can be leveraged to demand data on a foreign citizen is a stark reminder of why local-first software and hardware transparency matter more than ever.

When we build tools that rely entirely on centralized cloud providers, we aren't just outsourcing the hosting—we're outsourcing our legal jurisdiction.

garyfirestorm•about 2 hours ago
Shouldn’t we fix the laws instead of penalizing users for using cloud services? There should be freedom to use cloud services for our convenience without having to accept legal defeat. That should be the focus for fix.
commandlinefan•about 2 hours ago
Even if you fix the law today, the law can change tomorrow. As Bruce Schneier put it: "it's not enough to protect ourselves with laws. We must also protect ourselves with mathematics".
miohtama•33 minutes ago
Also, the president of United States and his ICE Czar do not seem to care what law says. And no one seems to care to enforce the opposite.
cwillu•29 minutes ago
American laws aren't something I can meaningfully influence.
footy•about 1 hour ago
sure, except if you're Canadian like the man in question you can't do that for US law. Easier to use local-first software than influence the laws of every country where a service provider you could potentially one day use be based.
sheikhnbake•about 2 hours ago
In theory yes. In practice, the working class is competing with corporations that are flooding the political arena with billions. This was already a daunting challenge to deal with even before the oligarchy went mask off across all branches of government.
stavros•about 1 hour ago
No, it's a reminder of why not letting your country descend into fascism matters more than ever.
cwillu•26 minutes ago
Two things can be true. We rejected our fascist clown in a landslide, but local-first is still necessary to avoid your fascist clown.
stavros•18 minutes ago
I'm not going to say to not do the thing that'll get you a 1% benefit, but you should definitely do the thing that will get you an 80% benefit.