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WaxProlixabout 2 hours ago
What we're doing to the Cuban people with this blockade is criminal. I don't expect to see justice in my lifetime. What a miserable state of affairs.
Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
The US is not enforcing a blockade, it's an embargo. The US and other countries are refusing to trade with Cuba, but plenty of other countries can and do trade with Cuba. Cuba is not entitled to trade with the US.

A blockade is when a country stops traffic, from entering a country's ports. It's an act of war, and a totally different thing from an embargo.

elmomleabout 2 hours ago
The US has been seizing fuel shipments en route to Cuba. What do you call that, if not a blockade?
Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
They have been boarding ships that fly false flags. That is, they claim to be flying under the flag of some country. But when the US contacts that country to confirm that the ship is really registered there, the government of that country replies that the ship is not, in fact, registered. This is legal to do regardless of the embargo against Cuba.

There are plenty of ships that move good and resources to Cuba that don't get boarded.

imvgikviktbtabout 2 hours ago
The Cuban government embargoes their own citizens. I don't understand why there isn't more criticism there.
ASalazarMXabout 2 hours ago
> The US is not enforcing a blockade, it's an embargo.

Oh, so USA is only forcing their trade partners to embargo Cuba! That makes thing better, right?

MSKJabout 2 hours ago
It's not about better or worse. I think it's important to understand the actual situation first so that we may argue the on the issue at hand. Embargo and blockade are at different levels of escalation. Now we can discuss that the embargo and advocate for de-escalation
imvgikviktbtabout 2 hours ago
Which countries have US forced embargoes on Cuba?
Someoneabout 2 hours ago
FTA: “U.S. President Donald Trump resumed ramping up a six-decade-old American ecomonic embargo on Cuba in January after cutting off its main supply of oil from Venezuela and threatening sanctions on Mexico, its second largest supply, and any other country that provided oil to the island.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Cuban_crisis: “ The United States began blocking oil tankers heading to Cuba in February 2026, targeting companies such as the Mexican state-owned Pemex and threatening the responsible countries with tariffs should they resist. […] On 29 January 2026, Executive Order 14380 was signed and entered into force on 30 January, declaring a national emergency in US and authorizing the imposition of additional tariffs on imports into the United States from countries that directly or indirectly supply oil to Cuba.”

That’s a bit more than an embargo.

Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
No really, it's an embargo and a promise to tariff other countries that don't also embargo Cuba.

An embargo is like boycotting a store. A blockade is like standing around the store with a bunch of batons promising to apprehend anyone who tries to shop at the store.

They are not the same.

legitsterabout 2 hours ago
> U.S. President Donald Trump resumed ramping up a six-decade-old American ecomonic embargo on Cuba in January after cutting off its main supply of oil from Venezuela and threatening sanctions on Mexico, its second largest supply, and any other country that provided oil to the island.

It has taken on distinctly more "blockade-like" attributes.

anigbrowlabout 2 hours ago
Right and there's no wars in Ukraine or Iran, they're 'special military operations' or 'excursions.'
ceejayozabout 2 hours ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/12/world/americas/venezuela-...

> The oil tanker seized by the United States off the coast of Venezuela this week was part of the Venezuelan government’s effort to support Cuba, according to documents and people inside the Venezuelan oil industry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/20/world/americas/cuba-oil-b...

> Three days later, the U.S. Coast Guard intercepted a tanker full of Colombian fuel oil en route to Cuba that had gotten within 70 miles of the island, the data showed.

> The U.S. government called its 1962 policy a “quarantine” to avoid using the word “blockade,” which legally could be interpreted as an act of war. The Trump administration has also avoided using the word “blockade.”

The distinction seems to be mostly word games at this point.

Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
This ship was flying a false flag [1], which makes it legal for governments to seize regardless of the situation with Cuba.

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-we-know-oil-tanker-the-ski...

ricardobeatabout 2 hours ago
Trump instituted tariffs on any country that sells oil to Cuba, it is effectively a blockade.

It’s also in fact preventing ships carrying oil to reach the island, using their military, I wonder if there is a term for that.

Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
No - they can just pay the tariff and continue to trade. The ships being seized are doing things like flying false flags, to try and trade with Cuba without paying tariffs.
dyauspitrabout 2 hours ago
The US has pressured other countries to stop trading with Cuba. That’s effectively a blockade.
georgemcbayabout 2 hours ago
> The US is not enforcing a blockade, it's an embargo.

...just like the war in Iran isn't a war.

These important reminders brought to you by the Ministry of Truth.

ReptileManabout 2 hours ago
They had 70 years to get rid of the communists. In the case of people living under dictatorships I am victim blamer.
mitthrowaway2about 2 hours ago
Yet you guys were happy to open up to trade with China in 1972. Why the double standard?
smallmancontrovabout 2 hours ago
So that the Capitalists could sell the industrial base of the United States of America to the Communist Party of China for 30 pieces of silver.

Cuba didn't have the ability to break the back of American labor. China did. That's the difference.

Arodexabout 1 hour ago
If collective punishment is the norm you want to apply, that rule may bite you back sooner than you think...
mothballedabout 2 hours ago
In a vacuum sure, but the communists replaced Batista, who was arguably as bad or worse at the time of the revolution. In the long run they'd have probably been better under Batista because being America's bitch is better for the health of Caribbean nations than being the bitch of USSR/China and the enemy of America while you haul your goods home in a donkey cart like it's the 19th century. But it wasn't knowable at the time the die was cast.
pasquinelliabout 2 hours ago
doesn't surviving a 70 year embargo make you question how bad the communists really are?
daedrdevabout 2 hours ago
Cuba let 20% of the population leave in 2020-24 so that they would have fewer dissenters in the country who might overthrow the government. Thats a higher rate of population per year than the peak of the great Irish famine
Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
No. The fact that the Cuban authorities s decided that further impoverishing Cuba is worth preserving their single-party communist regime demonstrates that it is indeed a bad government.
righthandabout 2 hours ago
Right because if we trade with the communists near us then people will start to realize that our government is made up of communism for corporations. Which is totally fine because we hide those communist ideas under “capitalism”. Let’s encourage the fed to buy more Intel shares and bailout big business (banks and PPP giveaways) but continue to wag the finger at communism in Cuba because it’s “bad” and the 1950s boomers got red scared!
RiverCrochetabout 2 hours ago
Cuba went through something similar in 1991:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period

rastrojero200014 minutes ago
The chinesse should just supply them with a shitload of wind turbines and solar panels. Syphillitic Mumm-ra is deathly afraid of those so he's likely to leave them alone.
daedrdevabout 2 hours ago
The US has had an embargo on Cuba for a long time that exempted Food and Medicine, while other countries freely traded with Cuba.

However, under the Trump admin it has turned into a de-facto blockade of all fuel, which really isn't the embargo, it's a new blockade by the US against Cuba. So I don't get why we blame it on the embargo when the current problems are clearly caused by the blockade.

Cuba's previous economic problems are driven by a complete lack of economic reforms, as unnamed Chinese officials said in this FT article two years ago:

https://www.ft.com/content/9ca0a495-d5d9-4cc5-acf5-43f42a912...

  "China publicly supports Cuba’s right to choose its own path to economic development “in line with its national conditions”, but privately Chinese officials have long urged the Cuban leadership to shift from its vertically planned economy to something closer to the Chinese model, according to economists and diplomats briefed on the situation.

  Chinese officials have been perplexed and frustrated at the Cuban leadership’s unwillingness to decisively implement a market-oriented reform programme despite the glaring dysfunction of the status quo, the people said."
I agree what the US is doing is horrible, but Cuba is not blameless on their overall situation
_whiteCaps_about 2 hours ago
Other countries are in a Catch-22 situation regarding Cuba - for example in Canada, Canadian law penalizes companies that refuse to trade with Cuba in order to comply with U.S. sanctions, and U.S. law can penalize them if they do trade.
simpaticoderabout 2 hours ago
Yeah it's crazy when the CCP expresses frustration that you're not doing more capitalism...

As an aside, I'm surprised that computers wouldn't make centralized economies more doable. It might not be good but at least the people wouldn't be starving and dying because hospitals are out of electricity.

norwegiandemon24 minutes ago
This was tried with computers, and failed. In Bolivia I believe.

I just watch a video on YouTube recently (don't have the link handy but a simple search should find it no problem) that explains why it's not a computational problem and when tried again with AI it still fails.

janderson215about 2 hours ago
Isn’t electricity a prerequisite for computing?
reillyseabout 2 hours ago
but what has changed right now in this particular situation, is the fact that they are blockaded since January.
daedrdevabout 1 hour ago
I made sure to mention that several times while complaining about the cuban government overall.
EcommerceFlowabout 2 hours ago
The current advancement of technology and warfare has opened up fascinating opportunities for powerful nations (USA). For example, given the extremely sophisticated targeting capacities of Palantir, how out of realm would taking out the entire Castro family be? I'm not talking about the morality, but simply the military options now available to the President.
eschulzabout 2 hours ago
Cuba has received shipments of oil and humanitarian goods from Mexico and Russia just this year, and I don't believe that the US has done anything to stop that (although the US has heavily sanctioned Russia in general for years now). However, those good received this year appear to have been free of charge.

I'm wondering if the US is solely to blame for Cuba being completely unable to pay for the oil it needs. Obviously the US embargo on Cuba is devastating for its economy, but other states impacted by US sanctions in a similar manner seem to get by with essential good like food, oil, and medicine. Cuba is in a poor economic spot, but the US does not appear at all to be using its military to prevent them from trade with other nations.

legitsterabout 2 hours ago
The embargo on Cuba is unbelievably silly in 2026:

- The Cold War is over and Cuba poses no security risk - Florida is no longer a swing state and appeasing Cuban Americans is not a worthwhile political move - We are willing to ally with much more oppressive regimes for less geopolitical benefits - Cuba was in the process of liberalizing and developing an independent middle class for the first time in half a century before Trump's last crackdown.

The jury is out on whether the "regime change" (or more like, junior dictator promotion) in Venezuela was worthwhile. It's certainly looking like a quagmire in Iran.

By hardballing GAESA, we're probably shooting ourselves in the foot by making the Cuban population more resentful of the US. "Regime change" is a less likely positive outcome than it was 8 years ago.

But we have plenty of models of military dictatorships slowly opening up to becoming stable economies through trade and access. More or less that's what happened with Vietnam, to name one.

BobaFloutistabout 1 hour ago
My impression is that while the final outcome is yet to be seen, Syria's current administration is a decent example of a government that one would naively expect to be fairly regressive recognizing the power and prosperity granted by liberalization.
ricardobeatabout 2 hours ago
Isn’t Cuba prime estate for solar, maybe wind too? A little gift from China could go a long way.
ceejayozabout 1 hour ago
WarmWashabout 2 hours ago
There is a point where you are so weak, and your opponent is strong, that the best outcome for everyone on the whole is for you to just capitulate. Surrender.

I don't know if there is something I am missing, but to me, the "bad guy" in a situation like this is the one holding onto power at everyone else's (extreme) expense, throwing their own team into the fire to keep their power in place as long as possible.

j_maffeabout 1 hour ago
Great victim blaming
WarmWash29 minutes ago
The victims are the innocent people being shredded in the middle of it, I don't see where I am blaming them
wiradikusumaabout 2 hours ago
From the perspective of a layman, isn't this bullying? Don't we suppose to have the UN where nations.. unite?
some_randomabout 2 hours ago
No, refusing to trade with an adversary nation isn't bullying.
reillyseabout 2 hours ago
It's been established many times in this thread that the US is not just refusing to trade but 1) Forcing trading partners to also not trade 2) Physically boarding and seizing ships that are attempting to go to the island with cargos of oil. Yet you just keep repeating the stuff about it being just about not trading with the US.
nsoabout 2 hours ago
Punishing others for trading with another nation is bullying.
mrguyoramaabout 1 hour ago
The UN was designed to not bind the powerful nations. That's the point of the security council.

Granted, little weird Russia kept a seat when the USSR broke up.

Sure, they will work hard to be a real place for mediation between small countries and unimportant parties, but they will veto anything against their interests.

asHqarabout 2 hours ago
The US starves anyone it does not like from natural resources and subsequently makes them buy US natural resources. It has done this to the EU, now it is trying to do it to China and Cuba.

This way they can control everyone.

Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
This is the exact opposite of what the US is doing to Cuba: The US isn't making Cuba by US resources, it's prohibiting Cuba from buying US resources and products.
ashg100about 2 hours ago
They are threatening all other countries with secondary sanctions:

> "This dramatic worsening has a single cause: the genocidal energy blockade to which the United States subjects our country, threatening irrational tariffs against any nation that supplies us with fuel," Diaz-Canel wrote.

Once a regime change is accomplished, Cuba will buy US energy and not Iranian or Russian. So go the plans at least.

Manuel_Dabout 2 hours ago
The above commenter quite explicitly said that countries are being forced to buy resources from the US which is the exact opposite of an embargo.
some_randomabout 2 hours ago
The US is explicitly not letting Cuba buy US goods, that's literally the only thing it's doing.
dgacmuabout 2 hours ago
As noted above: The US is threatening tariffs on any nation that sells oil to Cuba. That's quite different from simply refusing to trade with it, it's effectively preventing Cuba from buying oil from Mexico, among other sources.
reillyseabout 2 hours ago
also physically preventing ships from delivering fuel to the Island. It's all even more cynical and hypocritical when compared to the strait of Hormuz debacle, how can the US pretend that Iran must allow oil tankers unobstructed passage (international laws, ships at sea bla bla bla) when the US is deliberately preventing oil ships to travel to Cuba.
amanaplanacanalabout 2 hours ago
And blockading Venezuelan oil from reaching the island. Don't forget that part.
palmoteaabout 1 hour ago
> And blockading Venezuelan oil from reaching the island. Don't forget that part.

Is the new Venezuelan leader still trying to send Cuba oil? Or has she stopped that?

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mlmonkeyabout 2 hours ago
I don't really understand the point of the embargo. I am an American.

Picking on a tiny country like Cuba serves no purpose. The elites in Cuba are not going to suffer; the normal people will.

Instead of acting like a bully, I wish our government would be more magnanimous and just drop the embargo.

ceejayozabout 2 hours ago
> I don't really understand the point of the embargo.

Making sure Florida's Cuban-American community keeps voting Republican.

The end result is going to be them being another China-dependent colony. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/as-the-us-starves-it-of...

Tangurena2about 2 hours ago
As a nation, we're still pissed off that those uppity dark skinned people (/s) overthrew our businesses and replaced the corrupt politicians installed by our government/businesses. Generally, when other nations do that, we invade them. Repeating that pattern in Central America led to coining the phrase "banana republic" to describe it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

Also, we're still pissed off at Iran for deposing (in 1979) the dictator that we installed in 1953.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

Whenever America acts "funny" (or irrationally, if you prefer) and does something politically/militarily that makes no sense to the average person, the answer is almost always "white supremacy". In the past, that could be waved away by mumbling "we're fighting communism", but after the collapse of the Soviet Union & Warsaw Pact, we needed a new excuse. Sometimes "fighting terrorism" is used instead, but the T-word never gets applied to white people.

janderson215about 2 hours ago
Nice try attributing it to racism.

> Therefore, the term banana republic is a pejorative descriptor for a servile oligarchy that abets and supports, for kickbacks, the exploitation of large-scale plantation agriculture, especially banana cultivation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic

reducesufferingabout 1 hour ago
> As a nation, we're still pissed off that those uppity dark skinned people

What? This is currently purely on Cuban-Americans as a voting bloc in Florida...

The recent escalation is due to Marco Rubio, a Cuban-American, being Secretary of State.

apiabout 2 hours ago
There's a sizable Cuban-American community that hates the regimes and wants to use the USA to overthrow it, and they're a swing voting bloc in Florida which has a lot of electoral votes. That's the point.

Deciding the Cold War is over, other countries get to decide their own political affairs, and normalizing trade with Cuba would benefit Americans.

That's also a minor gripe I have with the leftists who call this imperialism. Let's say it is. And it's benefiting me how? I thought imperialism was supposed to benefit the empire doing the imperialism-ing. (At least in theory.) This is costing us tons of money and international prestige.

(Not saying I support that kind of imperialism either, just making the point that this is lose-lose.)

Tangurena2about 2 hours ago
There is a lot of spite involved in making this a "lose-lose" situation. Never underestimate the power of spite.
Psillispabout 2 hours ago
A political tactician would call it a Wedge Issue.

A human would call it generational depravity of the powerful.

davydmabout 2 hours ago
And, for an encore - stop all the other stupid shit. The rest of the world (and the US) is paying the price for little trump-tantrums, like the one against Iran. He's not a good international leader. He's not even a reasonable at-home president.
b3ingabout 2 hours ago
They embarrassed us years ago by forcing out US capitalists exploiting them and sided with Russia during the Cold War. We won’t forgive them for 50,000 years now despite we work fine with Japan and Germany
jpadkinsabout 2 hours ago
can't have communists in the western hemisphere. They give up authoritarian communism, we will be magnanimous.
deadboltabout 2 hours ago
Communism must be absolutely incredible for such a small country to be such a threat to a superpower.
kelseyfrogabout 2 hours ago
We must rhetorically cast our enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak."[1]

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urfascism

marknutterabout 2 hours ago
Would you tolerate a fascist country in your back yard?
WarmWashabout 2 hours ago
The US could not care less about Cuba being communist.

They care a lot about Cuba being "open door communist bros" with the USSR, and now with China.

If China moves on Taiwan, and the US moves to defend, and then a bunch of Chinese missiles hit the East Coast, people will wonder what the government was doing letting China set up camp right on our door step.

davidfekkeabout 1 hour ago
Here are some facts about Cuba and oil. The Cuban government was getting free oil from Venezuella. That ended on Jan. 3rd. Cuba was taking that oil, and reselling most of it on the open oil market. Cuba also has their own oil wells, so they can produce oil if they need it. Cuba was also having power outages prior to Jan 3rd.

Cuba also used to have the best economony in the Caribbean prior to 1959 when the Castro's took over. They switched from a free market ecomony to a state run socialist economy.

louwrentiusabout 2 hours ago
The humanitarian impact of this embargo is just one of the many stains on the USA that can never be removed.
alteromabout 2 hours ago
It's not like one needs to say blames here, as if it's just an accusation and there could be another cause for that.

We also have no reason to doubt that Cuba has run out of fuel as a result of an embargo on fuel when the officials say so. It's not a surprise; it was the expected outcome and the entire point of the embargo.

A better title would be: "Cuba jas run out of fuel due to the US embargo".

reactordevabout 2 hours ago
Either way, no bueno.
jmclnxabout 2 hours ago
>It's not like one needs to say blames here, as if it's just an accusation and there could be another cause for that

The US started the Oil Embargo and AFAIK it is still on-goimg. Cuba is running out of fuel. To me 2+2=4, so I say blame can be placed on the US :)

dgacmuabout 2 hours ago
I believe the person you're replying to is criticizing the choice of title, by noting that the phrase "blames" is suggestive that there might be other causes, when there clearly is not (which they agree with you about).
beepbooptheoryabout 2 hours ago
The point is the headline makes it this subjective accusation for Cuba, rather than, you know, a cause and effect thing.

> Home burns down, residents blame a fire

davydmabout 2 hours ago
functionally the same - and more accurate to use the original title, as Cuba is the one doing the blaming. I don't know why you're standing up for this - it's more bad behavior from a country that sells itself as the savior, and it's not new - they've been doing this (whatever they need to, to change regimes) in other countries for decades. It's shameless bullying, and completely contravenes "the rules" about how to interact with other countries.
vrganjabout 2 hours ago
What the US is doing to Cuba and has been doing to it for the past 70 years is a horrible crime.

What a lack of confidence in their own system to not allow fair competition between Cuban socialism and American capitalism.

It feels similar to Putin invading Ukraine because he didn't like the example of an EU-aligned country prospering next door and the populace starting to ask difficult questions.

ch4s3about 2 hours ago
I can agree that the current de facto blockade of oil is an unwarranted act of aggression and that the embargo was bad policy but the embargo was hardly criminal. The premise of the embargo was that Cuba expropriated American property without compensation so congress was punishing the Cuban government in turn. Again, its bad policy but not really unusual or criminal per se. The embargo has also had a ton of carve out since the end of the Cold War and the US is the main supplier of agricultural good to Cuba. The Cuban government has also engaged in a lot of bad behavior over the decades that warrants some sort of international sanction. They fueled the Angolan Civil War and made the broader conflict far worse (it was sort of their Vietnam). They prop up the worst security states around Latin America, like SEBIN in Venezuela until very recently. They were also involved in helping rig elections and suppress dissent in a number of Latin American countries.

> It feels similar to Putin invading Ukraine because he didn't like the example of an EU-aligned country prospering next door and the populace starting to ask difficult questions.

This is a misreading of Putin's motivation IMHO. He states clearly over and over again that it's about a historical concept of greater and historic Russia. He has even stated publicly it has nothing to do with NATO. So this is a false equivalence.

some_randomabout 2 hours ago
It's so funny how much anti-americans cry about the US refusing to sell things to an adversary.
amanaplanacanalabout 2 hours ago
If you think that's the only thing going on, you are missing a lot.