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lukeify24 minutes ago
Without these kinds of policies you'll just see the rise of more "new-right" parties like One Nation in Australia and Reform in the United Kingdom (yes, I am aware both are not "new", but they are newly popular).

It turns out there is a sufficient amount of immigration that is disliked by the populace that they will dump support for long-standing parties in favour of those who promise change.

jojomodding20 minutes ago
Switzerland already has such a party, the SVP (UDC in French), and in fact they put forward the initiative.

This was widely understood to be a vote on how well the SVP can appeal to the center. Turns out pretty well but it's not entirely surprising given their recent election results.

lukeify15 minutes ago
Yeah.

So what will realistically happen, if we look at the trajectories of other countries, is that immigration will continue to rise, more people will be peaked by the discontent it can sow, and the popularity of this party will rise further.

add-sub-mul-div12 minutes ago
Imagine taking away from the last century of world history the lesson that we should proactively give in to demagogues.
lukeify5 minutes ago
And it's criticisms like this that isolate people further from each other politically and emboldens support for the parties you dislike.

There are valid and reasonable reasons to dislike large-scale immigration beyond supporting despots for the sake of doing so. The mainstream parties are not offering alternatives, can you blame those who are disaffected by this rapid societal change from reaching out to support the first name that voices critique at policies they dislike?

WarOnPrivacyabout 1 hour ago