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dbvnabout 2 hours ago
The reports will be just as useless as they were before
clickety_clack41 minutes ago
A great way to undermine government would be to get them locked on Lines of Report (LoR) pushed to congress each month.
SoftTalkerabout 1 hour ago
And Congressional staffers will be using AI to summarize the reports, no doubt.
dnwabout 1 hour ago
Similar to Paperwork Reduction Act, we may need Slop Reduction Act.
FrustratedMonkyabout 3 hours ago
The shocking part of the story is the scale.

1.5 Million Users just within the Pentagon?

"The Pentagon has made AI tools, starting with Google Cloud’s Gemini for Government, widely available to members of all six military branches through the department’s bespoke GenAI.mil platform since December 2025."

"The number of Department of Defense personnel using commercial AI tools such as Gemini through GenAI.mil has significantly increased from just 80,000 in December 2025 to 1.5 million in June 2026, the Pentagon CTO claimed during his remarks at the Hudson Institute."

not_a_bot_4shoabout 3 hours ago
"The Department of Defense is the country’s largest employer, with more than 2.1 million Military Service members and over 811 thousand civilian employees."

From https://comptroller.war.gov/Portals/45/Documents/afr/fy2024/...

tananaevabout 3 hours ago
Presumably the whole point of AI is that we can start reducing that number. I am sure there's a significant number of people just working on various administrative tasks processing data and documents.
thatguy0900about 2 hours ago
That's exactly what I want from the Pentagon, less real humans involved and more automated systems that don't even have the concept of morality and the social responsibility to be a potential whistleblower
mpalmer44 minutes ago
Unless we're doing away with human accountability, the responsibility to accuracy (and whatever other statutory requirements) will remain the same, it will just be concentrated among significantly fewer federal employees.
BurningFrogabout 2 hours ago
Everyone is starting to use AI. I use three AIs daily. Why would the US military be different?
FrustratedMonkyabout 2 hours ago
I think, assume. With the Military, with the goal of killing people, that there is assumption of more human judgment being involved. Beyond even the issue of a man-in-the-loop for targeting systems. But even generally, that these are big decisions that shouldn't be farmed out completely.
BurningFrogabout 1 hour ago
There are 3 million people working in the US military.

Very few of them ever come close to killing anyone.

Mostly they're white collar workers doing regular desk jobs, where AI is just as useful as in other industries.

otikikabout 2 hours ago
Well, you are not the Pentagon.

I presume they might view their internal data being used to train a private company's training sets as a concern.

ribosometronomeabout 2 hours ago
There are a solutions, like Amazon Bedrock, that allow model usage with strict data control.
vitally3643about 2 hours ago
How many of your tasks decide whether entire populations of human beings live or die?
josefritzishereabout 3 hours ago
AI slop reports from lazy, incompetent leaders? I'm shocked!
CGMthrowawayabout 2 hours ago
Half of those leaders are Democrats. They're not all lazy and incompetent.
FrustratedMonkyabout 3 hours ago
Literally on the timeline for AI-2027.

https://ai-2027.com/

<edit> AI-2027, not Project 2027

cyanydeezabout 3 hours ago
ok, first, this isn't superhuman AI; this is slop production at scale. we could do these with markov chains decades ago.

The only difference now is the slop looks critically better, but there's no quality accounting.

FrustratedMonkyabout 1 hour ago
In AI-2027, there are many stages before superhuman AI. Military dependence on AI was one of them. This dependence creates incentive to do anything to not slow down, including ignoring any safety concerns.
FrustratedMonkyabout 3 hours ago
Not sure why the downvote.

Part of AI-2027, one of the early steps, was government dependance on AI for routine jobs. They become dependent on AI, and thus less willing to slow down or put on any guard rails. Because they can't live without it, they keep accelerating.

lelandfeabout 2 hours ago
Likely because they said Project 2027 which is something different
FrustratedMonkyabout 2 hours ago
Did not realize there was a follow on to Project 2025, called 2027.
htx80nerdabout 1 hour ago
if any (D) President did the same thing there would be 250 comments talking about how amazing this is. a true step into our future, etc. (R) man bad. everything (R) man does is bad. I know this cuz the Media and Experts tell me!
advisedwangabout 1 hour ago
You are getting mad at something you made up yourself
defmetrixabout 3 hours ago
I have no problem with this. If the AI has access to the funding and schedule data, it will probably give a more honest answer that the humans. And in reality, nobody in congress is going to take the time to read the report anyways. They will just vote the way they are told.
FatherOfCursesabout 3 hours ago
You're assuming the AI will not be given any instructions to produce the report with a certain data bias.
margalabargalaabout 2 hours ago
That only matters to the extent the report is read, though.
creaghpatrabout 2 hours ago
If so, that would be auditable (in theory; whether it would be audited in practice, probably not).
dgellowabout 2 hours ago
galleywest200about 2 hours ago
How many audits has the Pentagon failed in recent years?
cyanydeezabout 3 hours ago
Me either, bullshit vs bullshit AI is exactly the same. It's not like this administration was going to produce anything of merit anyway, so why not just go as quickly as possible to the bullshit instead of this 2weeks song and dance.
arjieabout 1 hour ago
This is wonderful. Many of these reports are makework paperwork. One even wonders if pushing for them is just taking a page from the CIA Sabotage Manual and applying it to us. Considering Congress members barely read the bills they’re voting on, it’s probably insignificant that this pointless paperwork is dispensed with.

When we finally end Environmental Impact Reports by generating them at scale with AI we will finally be able to escape this plateau of ossification.

I’m not particularly attached to bullshit being manufactured by human minds.

advisedwangabout 1 hour ago
If these reports truly are so bad, the law should be changed to stop requiring them. But, lawmakers aren't choosing to do that. Maybe there's actually some good reasons for them to exist.
pstuartabout 1 hour ago
> Considering Congress members barely read the bills they’re voting on

That seems like a good opportunity for AI to be used as a summary.

And on other fun note, in many cases Congress does not even write the bill, their patrons do and have them pretend to represent it.