Anthropic says Alibaba used 25k accounts to mine Claude

SeriousM•about 1 hour ago

> Anthropic wants firms like Alibaba punished

Do they care what we want? Im happy that China is copying the models and make them available for everyone, with 1/10 of it's price.

bofadeez•33 minutes ago

Competition is supposed to be the safety net of capitalism that ensures high quality and low prices. Distillation is not illegal. They're just using the LLM in a lawful way. So yes we all should thank the capitalist Chinese labs for helping the consumer in a win-win fashion.

This military strategy talk is not interesting to anyone other than Anthropic AI researchers who decide to work there.

recursivegirth•15 minutes ago

This. I find distillation way more ethical than piracy. The U.S. already jumped the gun by making this stuff not copyrightable. We should of instead held these companies liable. It's not like the research they did in the process was for naught. They (U.S. AI companies) could of sourced legal material without stooping to the same lows that China and other nations are willing to go to. All in the name of a buck.

Anyways - I pay for z.ai, Opencode Go, Ollama Cloud. I love me some distilled models.

bdavid21wnec•about 1 hour ago

I don’t know much about the ins and outs of LLMs, but if something can be reversed engineered that quickly. What exactly is the large moat that makes them worth 1trillion?

Daishiman•34 minutes ago

They have none. Google came to the same conclusion years ago.

androiddrew•about 2 hours ago

Yeah. The "I don't care" line from The Fugitive comes to mind.

gruturo•about 1 hour ago

The "Oh no! Anyway" meme from Top Gear has never been more appropriate.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/oh-no-anyway

d0mine•about 2 hours ago

How many accounts Anthropic used to mine the web

cyanydeez•about 2 hours ago

Oh no! The company that both stole all it's training data and claims to want to build the most ethically oriented machine cares whether other humans are using it to do their own thing!

It kinda seems like Anthropic and the trump administration are doing some bizarre kabuki theatre.

hogwasher•24 minutes ago

Neither Anthropic nor anyone in the Trump administration can hold a candle to kabuki theatre.

(I know that's not what you meant, but still! Art, the LLM and the Trump admin cannot.)

Anyway yeah this is beyond absurd of them to fuss about this. Oh no, the thieves that stole from checks notes basically everbody have been robbed of the stolen goods and nooow they care about copyright, huh, how shocking. I'm sure they'll settle all their court cases with artists and admit fault now, right? ...right?

Yeah no, fuck 'em.

teddyX•about 2 hours ago

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SonOfKyuss•about 3 hours ago

Actors, musicians, and writers are all playing the world’s smallest violin right now.

happyPersonR•about 2 hours ago

This. Lolllll

It’s so sad no one is going to shed a single tear

pixiemaster•about 1 hour ago

you can reverse engineer the whole thing with just 25k accounts?

don’t let the stock market hear that.

gentlewater•about 1 hour ago

The stock market rewarded SpaceX with a record breaking IPO valuation for promises that it would too offer a thing that could be reverse engineered with just 25k accounts. Possibly in space. The stock market doesn’t care.

adastra22•44 minutes ago

SpaceX’s value proposition is far more than AI.

dude250711•about 1 hour ago

Alien vs predator.

Anthropic says Alibaba used 25k accounts to mine Claude

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