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CuriouslyC12 minutes ago
All the other major game studios are dying and Nintendo is taking care of their employees. Just goes to show that focusing on making great games, being protective of golden goose IP, and making unique hardware rather than just trying to push prettier pixels is a winning strategy.
epsteingptabout 2 hours ago
I recently heard that a trip to Popeye's for a family of 3 recently cost $68 in Florida.

In Japan, there's a big issue when a snack raises its price 2 cents (3 yen - source: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/japanese-snack-company-apolog...)

The country for better or worse seems to be frozen in time - salaries have not caught up with the heady levels of SV (or even Europe) but neither have rents or prices for common goods.

This is not a judgment either way - but it does make Japanese exports a significantly more lucrative business - if only they could figure out how to sell more of their stuff abroad!

Anon1096about 2 hours ago
> In Japan, there's a big issue when a snack raises its price 2 cents

No, there really isn't. You're looking at one company that "apologized" as a marketing play but outside of that prices have been increasing with no fanfare for years now. The annual inflation rate has been 2-3% for the past 4 years. It's a lot less interesting to write a news article about that though.

https://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/cpi/158c.html

eloisantabout 1 hour ago
Comparing prices between Japan and Europe or US is strongly skewed by the weak yen.

The fact that the JPY has lost a lot of value compared to the US dollar has nothing to do with how prices or salaries in Japan evolve.

keiferskiabout 1 hour ago
I watch one of those “apartments for rent in Japan” channels and I’m consistently shocked how inexpensive apartments are in lower tier cities / not Tokyo. Like a studio in an inconvenient part of Fukuoka for $200-250 a month.

I guess the salaries are lower, but it’s hard to imagine such cheap rent in the equivalent American city.

Sateeshm27 minutes ago
As a kid, I always wondered why prices HAVE to keep going up. Seemed like a vicious cycle.
namblooc7 minutes ago
A capitalist society needs inflation in order to produce a desirable outcome. It is a driver of consumption, as opposed to people and organizations hoarding their money in a deflationary environment, as well as investments, because inflation leads to the devaluation of loans over time.
eloisant19 minutes ago
It's a vicious cycle if we get in an "inflationary spiral", but most of the time a small inflation is pretty healthy.
isakmarrabout 1 hour ago
> In Japan, there's a big issue when a snack raises its price 2 cents

That can't be true. So inflation just doesn't exist in Japan?

corfordabout 1 hour ago
For decades after the 1989 crash they were in deflation. Only in the last 3-4 years has any meaningful inflation returned. Some context here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Decades
rjh29about 1 hour ago
Historically, no. Prices were basically flat for a long time until covid.
chrischenabout 1 hour ago
They've also been making things smaller. Some would argue that it's a cultural thing, but being poor also means you have to start adopting austere cultural habits as a coping mechanism.
ForHackernewsabout 1 hour ago
Population is flat or declining so that's one of the main drivers of inflation. Japan could be a pioneer in steady-state economics.
nxmabout 1 hour ago
Over the long run, population decline it is associated with disinflation or deflation. Deflationary forces often become strong because overall demand and economic growth slow.
missedthecueabout 2 hours ago
In Japan, inflation adjusted wages are down 2% over the last 20 years. In the same time frame in the US, they're up 20% and even for the bottom quartile, earnings are up 15%.
Tade041 minutes ago
For the longest time their strategy was to:

1. Issue bonds at near zero or even negative yield.

2. Buy US bonds.

The country is still one of the largest foreign US debt holders at $1.191T, and interest from this debt pays for a significant fraction of the interest on their own debt.

WarmWashabout 1 hour ago
Japan gets an economic pass because they have such a strict monoculture.

In the same way you can "break" the laws of thermodynamics by getting every atom to move in the same direction at the same time, you can "break" the laws of economics by getting every person to make the same illogical choice at the same time.

kuhsaft33 minutes ago
Yes, the laws of thermodynamics and laws of economics are empirical laws.

But, the laws of economics are derived from human values, which are inherently subjective. There are some laws that are based on statistical evidence, but those laws are still based on human behavior, and are weak laws that only define the norm.

You state the choices as “illogical”, but those choices can be logical based off a different set of values.

Similarly, if you have a different set of axioms, you can build a different reasonable system on it.

It's like Euclidean geometry and Non-Euclidian geometry. They are both valid systems based off of different axioms. Similarly, the different economic systems are valid based off of different set of societal values.

8note26 minutes ago
is it similar?

to break the laws of thermodynamics locally, you need to have an open system where the tally is made up elsewhere

is japan following a unified culture of choices the result of other people doing extra outside of japan?

WarmWash11 minutes ago
You can't really break the laws of thermodynamics because they are statistical laws, not absolute ones.

When you have 10 atoms bouncing around you can pretty easily "break" the laws because you don't have the statistical mass for aggregate behaviors (what we call the laws) to arise.

So it's not really a law that entropy must increase, it's more a 99.999...% (envision a lot of 9's there) chance it will, and the number of 9's is proportionate to the number of energy points in the system.

weikjuabout 2 hours ago
> but neither have rents or prices for common goods.

All the price increases over the last few years disagree.

woodruffwabout 2 hours ago
I can't say I've ever been to Popeye's, but $68 for 3 people seems unlikely based on their online prices: I picked a random one in Orlando, Florida and the "family meal" (which appears to be a very large amount of chicken) is $20.

The closest thing would be the "16Pc Classic Signature Chicken Family Meal," which is $55.69 at that location and is described as feeding between 6 and 8 people. So you'd need to tip a bit to get to $68 from there.

the__alchemistabout 1 hour ago
My general assumption for any food I'm getting eating out in the US (across a range of regions) is $20/person for fast food/casual, and $30 if it's a basic restaurant. The food will be listed at $7-12 etc, but the receipt will show twice that due to fees, add-ons etc.

IMO what matters is what you pay; the numbers they post on the menus and other media aren't useful.

woodruffwabout 1 hour ago
This is from their online checkout, so it is what you'd pay.

(It doesn't seem implausible to me that you'd pay $20/pp for food in most parts of the US; I'm responding purely to the hearsay claim that someone paid $68 for 3 people. I can't square that unless you actually bought twice as much food, and then some.)

Retricabout 2 hours ago
Did you include tax?

Also, that meal doesn’t include drinks. Poppies is significantly cheaper if you’re taking it home and supplementing with your own drinks.

woodruffwabout 1 hour ago
Yes, but that meal is for 6-8 people. I don't think you can get to $68 for half as many people, even with drinks and tax.

I just tried it with the "8pc meal" and 3 fountain drinks for the same location, and it came to $39.36, including tax.

(If you want to try for yourself, I picked the Popeye's at 45 N Orange Blossom in Orlando, FL.)

1123581321about 1 hour ago
Florida sales tax is around 8%. Drinks are $2-3.
everforward33 minutes ago
If they’re bigger folks or starving and someone doesn’t want bone-in chicken, I could see it. 3 large 4 piece combos is $55.50 in Miami, and I think there are other things in that range (eg a 5 pc tender meal if someone hates bone-in chicken so they can’t get a family meal).

The family meals are substantially cheaper than individual meals, if you can get everyone to agree on bone-in chicken and the same 2 sides.

A 20% tip would push that up to something like $66.

SoftTalker28 minutes ago
Why would you tip at Popeye's? It's fast food.
bilkowabout 1 hour ago
Note that the snack price was increased "from 12 yen ($0.08) to 15 yen ($0.10)". That's a 25% increase.
akerl_about 1 hour ago
> I recently heard that a trip to Popeye's for a family of 3 recently cost $68 in Florida.

Does it?

Sparkle-san18 minutes ago
no, a combo meal (entree, side, drink) there is ~$10.
pavlovabout 1 hour ago
Japan had decades of deflation after 1990. There’s a generation of people who got used to prices staying flat or going down.
mempko24 minutes ago
People forget that prices don't rise automatically. Businesses decide to raise prices. There isn't some magical force called inflation cuasing prices to go up. It's human decision-making all the way down.
eloisant15 minutes ago
Human decisions but usually with external factors: increasing costs, pressure to grow, etc.

If they could get away with raising price just because they feel like it they would do it earlier and more often.

sjsdaiuasgdia41 minutes ago
> I recently heard that a trip to Popeye's for a family of 3 recently cost $68 in Florida.

Sounds like you ingested some propaganda.

b40d-48b2-979e17 minutes ago
Sounds like you don't pay for a family of people. I went out to dinner last night at a low/mid tier restaurant and it was over $100.
dartharvaabout 1 hour ago
Popeye's for 3 costs ~$10 in India unless you're trying to make a full-course meal out of it.
segmondyabout 1 hour ago
Why should salaries catch up to heady levels of SV? There are very few places in US that can match SV in salary.
ChrisMarshallNYabout 1 hour ago
That's very cool. They don't say whether or not it's retroactive, though (I'll bet not).

I am astounded at some of the starting salaries, these days. Kids, right out of school, make more than I ever did, at the peak of my career.

And can't afford a house.

My father never made more than about $40K, but had a house in Potomac, two cars, and a stay-at-home wife.

Money ain't what it used to be.

rootsudoabout 2 hours ago
This does not apply to Nintendo of America, which famously does underpay in the Redmond, WA area and well.. I hear has trouble truly attracting talent in the first place.
Wowfunhappyabout 2 hours ago
How much does Nintendo of America really do? It's basically localization and marketing, right? And maybe outreach to third party developers?

I would imagine they're able to underpay due to the allure of working for Nintendo combined with a lack of actual positions.

CM30about 2 hours ago
They do have at least one development studio there, Nintendo Software Technology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Software_Technology

They also make quite a few more changes than expected when localising games. Or at least they did in the olden days, where the American versions of games sometimes had different/extra features compared to the Japanese originals.

I think some of the localisation team are also regular voice actors for the games, on a worldwide basis.

Wowfunhappyabout 2 hours ago
> They do have at least one development studio there, Nintendo Software Technology.

Oh, interesting! The list of games isn't particularly impressive though, a lot of ports and remakes. Compare that to also-US-based Retro Studios, which isn't considered under Nintendo of America from what I understand.

rootsudo43 minutes ago
It's considered tech, adjacent to The Pokemon Company, also in the same area...

It's not just localization and marketing they do have corporate IT and some development/studio as well as very poor security policies that gets them breeched every now and again which makes sense, they pay poorly and from my personal experience gatekeep but that makes sense from the applicants that probably get in their applicant pool.

mothballedabout 2 hours ago
I'm sure they've employed an army of lawyers for US IP law which isn't something easily reproducible in Japan.
Bluescreenbuddyabout 2 hours ago
Game devs in general underpay unless you're high up.
dismalafabout 2 hours ago
US tech wages are insanely inflated compared to, well, everywhere.
genxyabout 1 hour ago
US tech wages are what everyone should be making. Tech looks high compared to everyone else, but it is more that everyone else's wages got suppressed.
gruezabout 1 hour ago
>Tech looks high compared to everyone else, but it is more that everyone else's wages got suppressed.

Where do you draw the line? Maybe everyone should be earning $10M/year like AI researchers, and anything to the contrary means it's "suppressed"?

snapcasterabout 1 hour ago
I hate this crab in a bucket framing. It's so anti-working person. Why isn't it that wages are insanely deflated compared to the US?
noirscapeabout 1 hour ago
Because the conversation is incomplete if we're talking internationally.

The cost of living in the US is much higher compared to most other first world/rich countries for one. Count up someone's basic living expenses in the US and those in another country (so taxes, rent and fixed costs) and the US often ends up much higher in terms of absolute values. In other countries, taxes usually soak up more of those fixed costs, reducing them more across the board for most people. The US also has very little protection against surprise fees at checkout (to the annoyance of non-Americans when ordering stuff online from the US), so a lot of stores sell on higher markups relatively speaking, making the same goods more expensive in the US. There's also healthcare, which needs little elaboration because the US is to my knowledge the single most expensive country to live in when it comes to that.

That applies to the US as a whole; it's why someone can say they're making 300k USD a year, say they're apparently barely able to stay afloat and then the rest of the world pretty much regards the US economy as being fundamentally wrong in some form. In most places, 300k USD a year is living in the upper class (as in, "work this job for a decade and you can retire early" money), not scraping the bottom of the barrel. By modern conversion standards, that's about 263k euros, or about 21k euros each month.

Then there's the tech sector specific problems. San Francisco is expensive to live in, and most US tech companies are in SF. Take the US cost of living problem, amplify it specifically for the tech sector (which is usually not talked about, since it's hard to vocalize). Second is that the US tech sector has more creative ideas and money than business sense - throwing money at a problem like the purse doesn't exist is a very US tech thing that doesn't apply anywhere else. It means that it's possible to hire people at far more inflated prices than the job is realistically worth.

Whether a wage is good or bad is pretty much entirely dependent on the local economy. Someone making 2000 EUR a month in Europe makes just above/right below the poverty line. Someone making 2000 EUR a month in Brazil is living an upper class lifestyle. That's an extreme comparison, but is a good indicator.

t-3about 1 hour ago
People can achieve a high standard of living anywhere in the world on half or a quarter of what goes for normal in SV tech. The valuations of these companies are even more inflated than their wages, and most of them aren't even profitable and don't have good prospects. Bubbles benefit some people, but they're a sign of dysfunction and I don't believe that the proper reaction to a sign of deep societal dysfunction is to celebrate that a few thousands of people can make a lot of money out of it.
outside123438 minutes ago
One thing to consider is that people in France (for example) are actually getting paid 45% more than you see in their salary because the government is taking that invisibly from the employer for social services.
dismalafabout 1 hour ago
The rest of the world has educated people willing to work for less. Wages are just supply/demand.

I'm not saying either is right or wrong, it's just an observation.

drstewartabout 1 hour ago
He told you why: because it's in America. You can bet if Europe paid those wages and the US didn't we'd be hearing about wage suppression and underpayment instead.
dagi3dabout 1 hour ago
I recently watched a video game journalist speaking about this(chicocartera from Eurogamer): apparently this raise happened in 2023. There was an official transcription from an investors meeting at that time where this was covered. It seems there are some subtleties in the translation which could lead to think it happened recently.
cautiouscatabout 2 hours ago
Nintendo gets a lot of flak for how they treat consumers and how litigious they are. However I get the impression they treat their employees very well in Japan. Like when the Wii U flopped, execs took a pay cut to avoid layoffs.

No company is perfect, but Nintendo seems like an example some C-suites should follow.

webererabout 2 hours ago
Its not even like they indiscriminately shut down fan projects either. Just the ones that try to make money. You still have sites like Pokemon Showdown and Advance Wars By Web that have been running for several decades without incident.
bananaboyabout 1 hour ago
My friends and I made a game for Ludum Dare 36 called No Mario's Sky years ago and received a DMCA take down notice. We weren't selling it, but we still had to remove it. Maybe because Mario is 100% a Nintendo property but Pokemon and Advance Wars are co-owned with other companies.
ksymph6 minutes ago
That's just not true. Off the top of my head: SMBX, Pokemon Uranium, Ocarina of Time 2D, AM2R. At one point they mass DMCA'd hundreds of games on the site GameJolt, none of which were monetized.

(why some fan projects like Showdown are still up is anyone's guess)

kipchakabout 1 hour ago
AM2R for example was distributed for free and DMCA-ed.
mghackerlady12 minutes ago
I think they killed it because they were planning on showing off their own remake

I think there are 3 rules to avoid getting the ninjas sent after you:

1) Don't try and make money 2) Don't do anything nintendo would realistically do 3) Don't touch mario. This one seems to be the most important. I see mario projects get killed all the time very early on in development, while am2r was allowed to exist until nintendo exercised rule number 2. I imagine the mother/earthbound fan works/translations will also be left alone if nintendo chooses to never touch that series again

SSLyabout 2 hours ago
they indiscriminately shut down any sight of online smash tournaments
shimmanabout 1 hour ago
Probably for the best seeing how many literal degenerates and sex pests there are in the scene, what with Nintendo being a family company and all.

edit: sorry downvoters, if you want to play with corporations you might want to remove the rapists from your ranks:

https://www.ssbwiki.com/2020_Super_Smash_Bros._sexual_miscon...

solenoid0937about 1 hour ago
When I was a kid this Japanese guy from Nintendo used to live next to us. He gave me the Nintendo DS before its official release for my birthday. It was pretty cool.
oceanhaiyangabout 3 hours ago
For someone in Japan this is shockingly high! Money doesn’t go far here at all
seandoeabout 3 hours ago
Err does go far, right? Japan is pretty cheap in my experience.
collinmcnultyabout 3 hours ago
This is largely a function of exchange rates. If you are paid in USD, then Japan will seem cheap in a way it does not for people paid in yen.
kdheiwnsabout 2 hours ago
Vietnam is even cheaper.

The problem is you get paid in a roided up currency and it's a fun vacation for you. The locals get paid awful wages and a single night at an hotel for a typical person here is a whole month's rent for them.

nly10 minutes ago
My British parents went there this year and found it very expensive
not_a_bot_4shoabout 2 hours ago
Living there with local wages and taxes?
arkon_hnabout 2 hours ago
Not if you don't get paid very much?
hootzabout 3 hours ago
Always a great thing to hear. Well paid employees, good results, and I'm definitely loving their Switch 2 releases already.
leetroutabout 3 hours ago
Off topic: what are you enjoying lately? Most of the games I have bought work on switch 1 but the screen and controls on the switch 2 are better.

I regret buying caravan sandwitch because it's so hard to see with my aging eyes but it is nice to play it anywhere.

Always curious to hear what others enjoy about it to help me have less regret in my $600 investment in Mario kart

wincyabout 2 hours ago
Pokemon Pokopia has been a surprise hit in our house, I have two kids, but I got into it and spent a ton of time making a perfect little Pokemon village. My kids really enjoy Tomodachi Life: Living the Dream. It's really silly but they make all their friends and have them get married and read the news and it's just peak Nintendo goofiness.

My kids have also gotten a little older so the mainline Pokemon games have become a thing again, and we've been playing those together. Everything just seems to run better on the Switch 2.

waltboszabout 1 hour ago
Tomodachi Life is so much fun. It's the first time I've seen 1990s voice synthesizer tech used in a fun way. And the item designer makes me nostalgic for Mario Paint.
leetroutabout 1 hour ago
My kid just discovered tomodachi life from a friend and I'm actually going to buy it for her on my switch 1 and give it to her. We've got a summer trip in a few weeks and she will be surprised to receive the game and the system to be all hers.
mghackerladyabout 1 hour ago
the Tomodachi series is really just amazing. I'm not the biggest fan of living the dream (I prefer life on the 3DSs gameplay and think collection on the DS is very interesting), but it's still amazing
hootzabout 3 hours ago
DK Bananza is wonderful, a masterpiece. Pokémon Pokopia is also really fun as a recurring game you come back to every day or every couple of days to relax and build your village. I'm also enjoying Switch 1 games on it. Pokémon Violet, for example, lagged hard on Switch 1 but runs great on Switch 2.
WillAdamsabout 3 hours ago
What sort of games do you enjoy playing?

For my part, I use my Switch 2 as an upgraded Switch 1 for all but one game (a franchise I am fond of release a "Definitive Edition Nintendo Switch 2 Edition") and feel as if I got a good value (esp. considering the upcoming price increase).

Debating on getting the updated Sports Resort, and wishing that there were more motion-controlled games (esp. miss _Red Steel 2_)

supermattabout 2 hours ago
I was so disappointed with Switch Sports. It lacked the soul of Wii Sports. Sadly, it seems like Sports Resort is going to be more of the same :(
CM30about 2 hours ago
Donkey Kong Bananza is probably my Switch 2 game of choice. Like it may not be marketed as such, but it's probably somewhere on par with Super Mario Odyssey in terms of game design and mechanics, and has the craziest ending sequence I've ever seen in a video game. It is a really solid 3D platformer, and does to Donkey Kong what Super Mario 64 did to Super Mario Bros/World.

The DLC is really fun too, though whether it's worth buying is almost entirely dependent on how much you get into Emerald Rush. Personally I found that mode incredibly addictive for the longest time, though it's definitely not for everyone.

As a general rule though, the Switch 2's library is kinda niche right now though. What games/DLC are worth it heavily depends on your taste in games.

Cozy/sandbox game? Pokopia could be a good choice.

Fan of the Zelda series in general? The upgrades for BotW and TotK are nice, as is Age of Imprisonment.

Prefer Kirby? Air Riders and the Forgotten Land upgrade are a good bet. More of a Mario fan? Well, there aren't as many options there outside of Mario Kart, though the Wonder upgrade has been pretty well received, and Mario Tennis Fever is a decent game.

Generally you'll find one or two niche spinoffs you'll really get into, though nothing on the level of a big new 3D Mario/Zelda/Pokemon/whatever game.

StilesCrisisabout 1 hour ago
DKB was created by the Odyssey team so it makes sense that it scratches the same itch!
kevin_thibedeauabout 1 hour ago
Galaxy 1&2 have visual upgrades.
SSLyabout 2 hours ago
I am afraid MK World isn't even the best kart racer on NS2. It's Sonic Crossworlds
leetroutabout 1 hour ago
I'm actually not loving mario kart world. I didn't know the sonic game was a thing so thank you I will check it out.
mghackerladyabout 2 hours ago
Unless you've played it elsewhere, I'd highly recommend person 3 reload
buellerbuellerabout 2 hours ago
Caves of Qud.
mcphageabout 2 hours ago
> Off topic: what are you enjoying lately?

I've poured tons of hours into Blue Prince, which is a great puzzle game. Pokopia is fun and charming if you like Pokemon or Minecraft. I've recently been playing Öoo which is a short but sweet "metroidbrania". I played through both Strange Horticulture and Strange Antiquities recently, and liked them both. I played the demo of "Adventure of Elliot: Millennium Tales", and liked the gameplay enough I'll probably pick up the full game, even though the dialog is atrocious. (The voice acting is good, at least).

vel0cityabout 3 hours ago
I'm happy Mario Tennis is back with the ability to play actual full tennis matches again. I skipped the last one.

The story is kind of meh, but the mechanics of the tennis matches is fun. Its not like I play Mario Tennis for a deep storyline campaign, its for playing a tennis game. Its a good multi-player game.

I also have to agree with Bananza. A fun story, good mechanics, and a silly art style and direction.

I'm eager to play Star Fox. It seems like an exceptionally good remake. Its been decades since I last played the original, I imagine it'll feel pretty new and yet familiar at the same time.

I still do have mostly Switch 1 games to play on it. I don't really mind that. The Switch 2 having pretty much full backwards compatibility is a strong feature to me and not really a con. Better hardware for sure, and some parts of my old Switch was getting worn out after so many years of use.

axpy906about 1 hour ago
10% from what to what? Japanese companies are not famous for pay.
IshKebababout 1 hour ago
Yeah without context this could be good or bad.
ilamontabout 3 hours ago
Japanese Yen is now 162 to USD, the lowest exchange rate since 1986.
pibakerabout 2 hours ago
And they are seeing sustained inflation for the first time since 2000. Not a great time to be paid in yen.
high_na_euvabout 3 hours ago
I thought it is common in big companies to raise salaries by x% every year?
NikolaNovakabout 2 hours ago
Not in all / not anymore. I'm in Canada a 300k IT/consulting company and rated top performer several years in a row. No raises last couple of years, before that it was 0.49 and 1% respectively. This year there was zero salary increase for anybody in our branch.
toomuchtodoabout 2 hours ago
Any year you're not getting a raise and there is inflation, you're taking a pay cut. You may know this, sharing as a PSA for those who might not.
ryukopostingabout 2 hours ago
Leave, that's BS.
Jcampuzano239 minutes ago
I'm not gonna lie, I chuckled a bit reading this.

This hasn't been the case for at least a decade now, if not more.

First it was extended out to maybe once every 2 years, then more, and lately at every company I've worked at (primarily large companies) where pay was mentioned the response is "we pay at or above market rates - discuss with your manager."

tyingqabout 3 hours ago
When it was, it was typically some amount less than inflation. 1-2%
SoftTalker5 minutes ago
3% for me, the last few years.

There are basically only two ways to get a substantial raise at most employers, either move to a higher grade/title position, or move to another employer (probably at a higher grade).

Once you are in, large pay increases are rare, I'm sure there are exceptions but as a general rule the salary you negotiate coming in is where you get your pay raise. Hence the prior conventional wisdom that you need to change employers every few years to get your additional experience reflected in your salary.

Japan has a culture of loyalty/lifetime employment so not sure how much that happens there.

bluGillabout 2 hours ago
Every few years I get a 10% raise when they realize those less than inflation raises are enough that they are losing people who places that pay better. (sometime it was me who left, but the cycle repeats at the new place)
brettermeierabout 3 hours ago
That's what I think I get... So few, I don't even bother to look how much more it is...
topgrain2about 2 hours ago
The worst is when you get a manager who’s either too clueless to realize you’re seeing a pay cut from an “increase” so small, or one who knows but is pretending otherwise.

That awkward pause in the comp update meeting when they tell you about the “increase” and seem to expect some positive reaction. LOL.

dylan604about 2 hours ago
If your "raise" is less than the increase from things like inflation, it's not going to be noticeable even if you did look. The concept of cost of living increases is laughable today. Even banks looking at a mortgage application is assuming your salary will increase way beyond what today's raises are. The only way to do that is to jump ship and find a new job, but then you're dinged because your work history is not stable.
KptMarchewaabout 2 hours ago
Individual employees. But the base rate (or band) stays the same, which is not what I'm reading here. So you might travel inside the band from low-paid to high-paid, while it stays the same.
colechristensenabout 2 hours ago
Japan had zero or negative interest rates for decades, a period which ended a couple of years ago.
albertgoeswoofabout 3 hours ago
not anymore
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teklaabout 2 hours ago
It mostly seems that Nintendo is trying very hard to prevent any concern over their stock price dropping like a rock

https://www.shacknews.com/article/149817/nintendo-ntdoy-pres...

mcphageabout 2 hours ago
Stockholders seem concerned that Nintendo isn't throwing away enough of their seed corn, like all the other major game publishers are.
dartharvaabout 2 hours ago
Great thing about Nintendo is unlike its competitors, they don't go around chasing new tech and business models. All their focus is concentrated on the playing experience - interfacing, fun value, guilt-free hooks etc. In many ways they are more a classic toymaker than a tech firm. This is the reason why they have such a strong following, their product at least is not run by MBAs chasing every chance at a point increase in margins.

I wish there were more such successful "craftsman shops" out there than soulless "service providers" that today's video game companies are.

engeljohnbabout 2 hours ago
I replayed Luigi's Mansion during a long flight the other day, and my wife looked over my shoulder and went "That game looks cool. Is it new?"

This is exactly why Nintendo games tend to have strong legacies. Everyone back then could see realistic graphics just on the horizon, but they weren't there yet. Nintendo knew that the play experience is the important thing, and made art and designs that work within the limitations. Luigi's Mansion, Wind Waker, Super Mario Sunshine, and Pikmin all still look and feel so good.

tskjabout 2 hours ago
Interestingly Wind Waker's art style was its main detractor among critics when it was released, which is wild and incomprehensible to me now. One of my favorite games of all time.
kipchak35 minutes ago
Part of this was the Spaceworld 2000 demo creating expectations for a game which looked basically like Ocarina of Time but on the GameCube. Then when Twilight Princess came out people missed the Wind Waker art style and the cycle continued.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNrOHY2HZqs

mghackerladyabout 1 hour ago
Indies are where it's at. Increasingly, the modern games I play are either by nintendo or indie devs with the exception of the occasional atlus game
ThrowawayR2about 2 hours ago
Don't forget their patent trolling, e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43059215 and general IP related bullying.
dartharvaabout 1 hour ago
Yeah I'll admit that's obnoxious but one could argue that's technically Nintendo of America, not Nintendo of Japan.
kittikittiabout 2 hours ago
Congratulations Nintendo employees! I've always had great conversations and interactions with your engineers so I think this is well deserved.
iLoveOncallabout 2 hours ago
Before people praise them (a bit late for that I guess given the current comments), Nintendo seems to pay quite poorly their employees in the first place, as you can see from the salaries on https://www.levels.fyi/en-gb/companies/nintendo/salaries/sof... for a company that has a stash of cash and is as successful as they are.
groundzeros20153 minutes ago
Never satisfied.
chalupa-supremeabout 1 hour ago
100k for entry level roles at one of the most recognizable brands of the world doesn’t seem too bad to me. Then again, I’ve never been to the Seattle/Washington area.