Notes Toward a New Romanticism: Or why it's 1800 all over again

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ggm•about 2 hours ago

Is this just a posh version of Millinarianism? I don't think so but I ask "why stop at 1800" and look at 1900 and 1700 and 1600 thinking there's signals every 100 years of a bit of Apple Cart upsetting.

Girls swooning over Beethoven and the fortepiano maestro tour europe.

coldtea•about 1 hour ago

Because the analogy he makes is with Romanticism, a specific trend/movement, for which 1800 is roughly a good reference point, whereas 1600 is not.

ggm•about 1 hour ago

And my point is that it's a label on a cyclical trend. But sure, he wanted to reason about romanticism specifically. He cuts off very early in the new century, and the romanticism presaged a 50year cycle of revolution and revolt against the congress of Vienna. The tide swung back and forth.

coldtea•7 minutes ago

>And my point is that it's a label on a cyclical trend

Not so sure about that. Romanticism isn't related to Millinarianism conceptually or otherwise. The former was a re-adoption of a hollistic medieval stance on life and nature.

If you mean "some cultural things change every now and then, so a trend changing is nothing new", maybe, but it's a much smaller claim than that we see a rebirt of Romanticism specifically.

defrost•41 minutes ago

I'm not convinced Beethoven had contemporary groupies tossing him their muffs.

Liszt, however ...

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisztomania

* (NSFW?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peJ_ncxXung

vlian2088•about 2 hours ago

>Nov 18, 2023

>Imagine people deciding that the good life starts with NOT learning how to code.

you monkey pawed it.

Notes Toward a New Romanticism: Or why it's 1800 all over again

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