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mw888about 8 hours ago
I think a lot of this is the inevitable (and good) direction teaching must go.

As someone who has self-taught most of my skills both before and after AI, some deep feedback: I don't want a fixed piece of content when learning with AI, like a video or blogpost or book—unless I'm completely new to the subject, and even then maybe not.

The reason is that some parts of the topic will be naturally easier or harder for me. When I use AI I tell it everything I know and understand and start working from my most burning questions and misunderstandings. This lets me cover the maximum amount of non-redundant ground in regards to my understanding.

We have this amazing new technology and you're conforming it to models of schooling (like the Prussian model) which are one or more centuries old. The technology is so powerful that it should allow you to completely reshape education, not merely replicate the status quo.

bocchi36 minutes ago
I agree. I really cringed when I viewed this platform. The potential in educational AI rests in its interactivity, quizzing and socratic dialogue. There are many great and engaging courses on Calculus taught by charismatic and interesting instructors (humans). And in this age of MOOC, all it takes is a handful of strong online accessible courses for there to be diminishing returns in trying to improve the quality of lecture content.

I want to see agents quiz me, understand my strengths and weaknesses, setup study plans, using spaced repetition to ensure I retain information, engage in dialogue such that I come to the answer through articulated reasoning. Not watch lecture content similar to what's already out there but with less soul.

sinaatalayabout 8 hours ago
I couldn't agree more. But if you look at it from this perspective, you may understand why we use static videos for this demo.

Definition: the AI tutor is some AI that can generate these videos.

If that generation happens in real time, it's a complete reimagination of education. It's literally the AI private tutor.

But before you can do that in real time, ask yourself: let alone real time, can you even generate a video, let's say, in 30 minutes? That's what we explored, and we found some great things. But it's not real time yet. The only practical way to publish what we'd built, though, was as a static video paired with chat.

The complete reimagination of education is on the way.

IamTCabout 7 hours ago
The impact of LLMs on learning is also something I am keen on, both for myself and for my children and how I should guide them along. The tech is undeniably useful but useless/harmless if employed without care for first principles of learning.

Most literature seem to indicate that whatever the manner of use, "friction" while learning ultimately still helps. My first "experimental" touchpoint is using LLMs as a called "socratic tutor".

Edit: because fat fingered submit while typing this on a split keyboard

blagieabout 8 hours ago
This sort of thing makes me depressed. The videos are LLM slop. You're a confused student. You do a web search. You run into something like this. It looks high-quality and professional. It is dogshit which no one can understand. The result is a confused learner who feels bad about themselves.

At the same time, thousands of low-quality resources overwhelm good content.

Integrating with an existing resources like MOOCulus could add a ton of value, in contrast, but wouldn't have the promise of making the creators money.

Being able to create manim animations at scale is a value-add, but doesn't seem enough of a value-add to create a business which does anything other than active harm. But it seems to be trying to be one.

nsd65about 7 hours ago
Well you can goto any large library in the world and you will find a zillion books on Calculus. Part of the learning and developmental process is working out for yourself what is "good" and "bad". And that has a lot to do with what your background is and what problems you are using Calculus for. So I dont feel its a new issue. People who want something better learn to find it.
pishpashabout 7 hours ago
Most textbooks are bad too. It's worth looking at some sample content to find the good ones.
sinaatalayabout 8 hours ago
There are some incorrect premises here.

"The videos are LLM slop." - No, they're not. Watch them.

"It's dogshit that no one can understand." - That's not true. Try it.

aureianimusabout 7 hours ago
I watched some snippets, and would like to put forward some points in support of the former:

- The voice is clearly TTS, which I think really loses something. Not having variation or stressing particular parts with intonation is a big deal in teaching. The beginning of lecture 5 has a pause in a weird spot (surface).

- The intro to the first lecture is already unnatural: "And that's of course now we're going to start working with functions of more than one variable."

- The scaffolding in lecture 1 is off to a bad start. The lecture tries to rope the student in with a question, but the question uses the notion and notation of a vector that has not been introduced yet. This reeks of a prompt "use a (motivating) question to introduce the topic", but a question that cannot be understood by a student does not help.

sinaatalayabout 7 hours ago
These are 14 hours of video, so it's easy to find mistakes. We've probably made plenty of them. But this isn't AI slop.

We created the technology so that the content can be updated and improved over time. If we make mistakes, we'll fix them and continue maintaining the material. These aren't static MP4 files recorded once with a camcorder.

blagieabout 7 hours ago
I did try it.

I'd provide feedback on how to make this better, but to be frank, I don't want to see this made better. I'd like open education made better. I'm on the other side here. Even if I did, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't listen.

In my career, I've done both open and closed models (more of the former in recently, more of the latter early career). I'm open to both, but education should be open, for a whole slew of reasons I can enumerate.

yoyohello13about 7 hours ago
Content is interesting and seems accurate to me.

That narrator drives me nuts though. There too many “like” “you know” “so” “down here”. Comes off grating, I don’t think I could listen to multiple hours of this.

sinaatalayabout 7 hours ago
Thank you for the feedback!
sinaatalayabout 10 hours ago
The LLM has the video's full context, including visuals. Try chatting with it. Jump to any point in the video and ask questions about what you see.
tptacekabout 9 hours ago
Problem sets?
sinaatalayabout 9 hours ago
In terms of UI, it's just videos and an LLM chat. Though, the videos include problems along with their solutions.
Jayakumarkabout 9 hours ago
Good, is there calc 1 and calc 2 or should we ask llm ?
sinaatalayabout 9 hours ago
Calc 1 and Calc 2 will come later. We'll actually be doing this for hundreds of technical subjects over the next 6–12 months.
pellabout 9 hours ago
How are you guaranteeing accuracy?
sinaatalayabout 9 hours ago
By storing the content in a semantically meaningful way (not mp4s), making it easy to review, version control, and maintain.
gulugawaabout 5 hours ago
I asked the bot questions about competitive Pokemon and Game of Thrones which it answered.
supernebulaabout 8 hours ago
What tool was used for video generation?
sinaatalayabout 8 hours ago
We have an in-house computer graphics pipeline. We reimplemented 3Blue1Brown's Manim in Rust from scratch. It is available at https://studio.academa.ai. The renderer runs in the browser using WebGPU.
KeplerBoyabout 8 hours ago
is that renderer open source?
sinaatalayabout 8 hours ago
No, not yet. It's something we may do in the future.
whattheheckheckabout 8 hours ago
Who is signing off on the correctness?
sinaatalayabout 8 hours ago
We are. We're confident in the quality of the teaching and the accuracy of the content in these videos.

Our videos are not some MP4 files sitting on a disk. We see our content like software. We review it, version-control it, and maintain it.

anonymouzabout 7 hours ago
Who is "we"?
sinaatalayabout 7 hours ago
We're an edtech startup, Academa: https://academa.ai

We're two PhD students and close friends since our undergraduate years.

I'm Sina: https://sinaatalay.com

And my co-founder, Apo: https://geduk.io