US Military's Cyber Command Unit Grapples with Cluster of Deaths by Suicide

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aga98mtl•7 minutes ago

There is a tv show about in-the-know government employees dying by suicide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_%28miniseries%29

YesThatTom2•about 1 hour ago

I suspect the Cold War of cyber warfare that is happening is orders of magnitude bigger than the public knows.

Imagine knowing this and not being able to get emotional support from your friends and family.

YesThatTom2•about 1 hour ago

(Replying to my own post). Also, it’s gotta be mentally draining to be told by the president they have to win but also always let Russian attacks though.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/defens...

rbanffy•about 1 hour ago

Presidents come and go and, hopefully, this one will be held accountable.

squidbeak•about 1 hour ago

Just as important, the US will need to figure out exactly what strings Putin's managed to attach to Trump - kompromat? threats? bribes? elaborate man management? something else? - or this vulnerability could be exploited again.

manoDev•37 minutes ago

The new US policy under Trump is giving up trying to win the world and instead focusing on internal market and dominance over the American continent. Causing and sustaining friction everywhere is aligned with this policy.

This is the result of a shift of power in the US politics, from the global financial capital of the last decades back to the military and industrial sector.

Forgeties79•7 minutes ago

> The new US policy under Trump is giving up trying to win the world and instead focusing on internal market and dominance over the American continent.

Is that why he bombed Iran and single-handedly caused a global energy crisis? A shift of focus to “dominance of the American continent”?

babafoo•7 minutes ago

Conspiracy advocate here, they are committing suicide because they are beleaguered by the voices in their heads.

It is everywhere. Thought control is the reality and waging a secret war upon us all.

You squares talk about “mental health”. What would the healthiest among you do if you were to confront America’s greatest secret? That we are not alone in our own minds and secret cultures, a secret governance, and a secret war among us all takes our very best from us and destroys them in the light of day from within?

Thought Controlled America has been the most dangerous place in the world for lawful United States military assets over the past 8 years. Many thousands from navy seals and marine super soldiers to those technically minded throughout. Driven to suicide is only slightly more suspicious than the other varied ends.

We are not alone in our own minds and a secret war destroys us from within.

ddxv•5 minutes ago

What does not alone in our minds mean? Also, you mention America, do you think this is bounded to the physical US?

someothherguyy•about 2 hours ago

"Between early June and early July, as many as five individuals who worked in or closely with US Cyber Command died by suicide, based on internal communications, public records and sources. The deaths have raised concern among lawmakers and military leaders within the highly secretive command, which is responsible for defending US networks and conducting offensive cyber operations."

According to https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-25-107121.pdf there are ~17,000 authorized positions

paulmist•about 1 hour ago

Assuming a predominantly male population, the suicide rate should be around 20 per 100000 per year. 5 people in a month gives 18x higher rate. Too short period to draw any statistical conclusions but it’s a large blip.

dcanelhas•43 minutes ago

The suicide rate isn't uniformly distributed given gender. There are likely screenings (previous mental health history) and rejection of the most affected age group (70+) that should lead the baseline to be even lower. Meaning 18x is probably on the low end.

glimshe•about 2 hours ago

Wasn't there something similar with scientists recently? I wonder how much of that is just statistical noise.

YesThatTom2•about 1 hour ago

That turned out to be false. Normal attrition / vacation time.

dijksterhuis•about 1 hour ago

yep, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyw9rpdl4po

> "The US Top Secret-cleared aerospace and nuclear workforce is ~700,000 people," science writer, investigator and pseudoscience debunker Mick West wrote on 16 April on his Substack.

> "Ordinary mortality over 22 months predicts ~4,000 deaths, ~70 homicides, and ~180 suicides. The list has 10 … The deaths are real. The families' grief is real. The pattern is not."

> Louise Grillmair, similarly, says that - while her husband "would laugh" at speculation that the deaths might be connected - he would also "probably talk statistically" to squelch conspiracies.

inigyou•14 minutes ago

AI wrote the second quote

cyanydeez•about 1 hour ago

Yes, there was a lot of statistical noised amplified by the conspiracy theorist media.

firefax•12 minutes ago

Anyone have a non-paywalled source?

United857•8 minutes ago

https://archive.ph/W2tpE

4gotunameagain•about 2 hours ago

It wouldn't surprise me if they found out something they shouldn't about Israel's infiltration in US military and politics, and were dealt with.

But most probably they couldn't bear the atrocities they had a first row view at.

wartywhoa23•about 1 hour ago

If they downvote merely speculating about that, imagine their methods regarding those in the know.