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treetalkerabout 2 hours ago
It seems to me that a model provider who can watermark generated text (unbeknownst to the users) could also specifically watermark generated text prompted by particular users, thus enabling tracking and, consequently, harassment and control of those users and populations as a whole. Bad for anonymity and for free speech.

I hope to be corrected by someone who knows the tech much better than I do.

Vespasianabout 2 hours ago
That is a concerning possibility but I wonder what the threat model is.

They have all that information already and could simply classify and pass it on without the need to encode it with a probability.

WalterGRabout 1 hour ago
From yesterday, 68 comments on the original source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49303350
n4pw01fabout 2 hours ago
If you look at how this works under the hood, “when two words that don’t necessarily matter to the context, it will pick one word over the other and a pattern emerges”

And that pattern will be reverse engineered in weeks by a startup

And a downstream agent produced by said startup will be built to roll those dice again and defeat the watermarking

And a the LLM vendors will combat this

And a cottage industry shall be born anew

cyanydeezabout 1 hour ago
To be fair, the circle jerk in virtual space is limitless. Its just unbounded reach arounds, turtle cum all the way down, human detritus as far as the eye can see.

The same VC capital will chase it because god forbid we fail at real challenges; no, we must build the torment nexus.