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juancn21 minutes ago
It's freaking fun! That's basically it.

What's common and everyday in one place is exotic in another.

It lets you get something that's just plain fun, for little money and it feels like a shared experience with the locals.

They don't usually appreciate what they have, but it's a great way to rethink your own culture's assumptions.

tylerflick19 minutes ago
One of my favorite souvenirs from France is a reusable shopping bag from Carrefour.
tiahura1 minute ago
The Papeete Carrefour is one of my favorite stops in Tahiti!
trhway17 minutes ago
>to rethink your own culture's assumptions.

The shock Soviet people were getting from Western supermarkets and department stores, etc. was a significant stimulus for the "rethinking" :)

mgkimsalabout 2 hours ago
I don't travel abroad as much as I'd like, but I always enjoy bringing back some foreign candies for friends. Some things we can get locally in upscale shops, and much you can get from Amazon, but most folks don't bother. I recently came back from Iceland and brought probably $20 in little candies. Lots of licorice-based stuff - that's apparently a big thing there. Just little fun bits to pass out to friends when I come back.

But I've always enjoyed poking through grocery stores traveling abroad - China, UK, Russia all were interesting in their own way. Seeing what's similar and what's different. Yeah, cool - they have Pringles too - but... wow... such weird flavors. I do remember seeing canned horse in a couple of Russian stores. And in one upscale Moscow grocery, they had a huge fridge case for 'cheeses from around the world'. Germany, Italy, France, UK... kept going... got to the 'US' portion and ... tubs of 'Philadelphia cream cheese'. I thought I'd taken a pic of that but sadly can't find it any more. I really thought it was a joke.

Given that almost everything is a subsidiary of Unilever, the 'I wonder what they'll have' question has faded. But finding local flavors of things is still fun. Greece is likely my next bucket list trip. Any suggestions on foods to try or candies to look for - let me know! :)

shimmanabout 1 hour ago
Have nothing to offer but have you compared bakeries in different countries? I feel like a neighborhood bakery can offer a lot of local flavors that are affordable + unique, can't share with friends tho.
mgkimsal41 minutes ago
not as much as grocery stores. Most stores are big enough where I can get lost in them for a bit. A lot of bakeries tend to be smaller, a bit more crowded, more transactional, and I don't always speak the language well. It's not that I've never been, but they tend to invoke a bit more anxiety than browsing in a larger store.

BUT... have had some great breads, pastries, pasties and such in Moscow, Romania and Iceland. With that said... they may not actually have been great. The article touches on it - some of my memory of "great food" is just... the experience of having that food while abroad. I've told friends "oh, i had some great ____ over at _____" only to get told that that place is garbage and has the worst ____ ever and I should go to ____ instead. They may be right, but part of the 'taste' is 'first time trying $foo in $bar' which adds to the memory (usually good). Also... whether I'm with someone or on my own has an impact - usually the whole memory is better when I'm with friends or family.

precommunicator7 minutes ago
My favorite thing when travelling across Europe is visiting local Lidl and comparing it to my own home Lidl. There is always something slightly different, but the base is most often the same.

For example in Belgrade they didn't have kaiser rolls in Lidl. That's a first for me.

tiahura2 minutes ago
I thought I was the only one!
hadlockabout 2 hours ago
I was surprised when I went for an extended visit to Colombia - outside of beef cuts (an entire rack of ribs, bit butcher cuts, not a single steak or a dozen hamburger patties) frozen foods are virtually non-existant. If you wander into any American supermarket or costco roughly 20% of the floor space is reserved for frozen foods. Something as ubiquitous as the bachelor frozen pizza just doesn't exist in their super markets, despite being the same size and ~roughly the same dry goods/shelf goods.
parl_matchabout 2 hours ago
10 years ago, 80% of columbian homes had refrigerators and almost every home suffers from at least one blackout a year. this can be hours or days, during certain seasons.

and lastly, cultural reasons inform appliance design, which loops back around: columbian freezers are really small.

https://www.alkosto.com/nevecon-electrolux-side-by-side-423-...

exabrial22 minutes ago
It's one of my favorite activities in a foreign country! Even more fun if you go shop with a local.
numpad0about 2 hours ago
Yeah, local supermarkets and bookstores are always great places to try. Experiencing local prepackaged foods with different standards of bare minimums than yours and flipping magazines for topics you're familiar in unfamiliar language and formats is not an easy moment to replicate at home.

> It's 10:00 in a Tokyo 7-Eleven, ... , katsu curry buns, ...

nitpick: "katsu curry" means katsu plus curry. katsu means Japanese localized cutlet fries. curry means curry. there are katsu sandwitches and curry buns in 7-11 JP, but no katsu && curry bun in 7-11 JP. Calling curry buns katsu curry buns is same as referring to french fries as fish and chips with emphasis on FISH when there isn't in the bag; it would be a false advertisement if a restaurant had done it. The author need to make up their mind and call it Japanese curry, or if their style guide prohibits it, just curry without indicating what type of it is, or, Japanese curry is not supposed to be much different from the Royal Navy recipe anyway, so you could call it the Navy style, that's probably fine too.

socalgal2about 2 hours ago
https://www.komeda.co.jp/menu/detail.html?cat=904&item=10125

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/expert/articles/5a2a8d4deea967f273a...

https://everypan.jp/menu/371/

カツカレーパンってたくさんあるよ!

セブンイレブンにもある。

https://www.sej.co.jp/products/a/item/150416/

でも、セブンイレブンでは「カツカレーパン」っていう名前じゃないんだよね。

"katsu" does not mean "cutlet", it means "breaded and deep fried". Maybe some dictionary claims otherwise but in actual usage it means "breaded and deep fried"

There is all kinds of "katsu" including egg katsu

https://delishkitchen.tv/recipes/236899984442655864

chocolate cake katsu

https://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/shinrindo/11-1.html

etc...

ButlerianJihad9 minutes ago
Food culture is a marvelous bridge and gateway for anyone to explore foreign cultures. It can be very accessible at first and lead into more exotic discoveries.

In the USA, it is very easy to find large pan-Asian-themed grocery stores. I could find about three very close by; a Filipino one just opened a few weeks ago here. It is very strange, though: there are no large-scale European grocery stores in the USA, that I know of. If you want Euro-goods, the source is very often a small family-run deli or boutique shop, and the same goes for British/UK groceries. It may be an accident of history and geography.

I traveled to Catalonia by way of London. In England I had no time at all to visit grocery stores. In Catalonia I saw them a few times. Carrefour was reminiscent of a large Target, basically. Of course a store selling groceries is not unfamiliar to anyone, but it was so overwhelming sometimes. I've mentioned a few times about the olive aisle. The national pride and diversity of varieties were simply amazing. I also experienced this at an Italian restaurant, where the complimentary appetizer was 3 types of olives, all very exciting.

When I first arrived in Catalonia, a friend served me a sandwich in her café, and said with gravitas, "it is jamón!" and I nodded. My high school Spanish said that "jamón" means ham. No big deal, she served me a ham sandwich?

By the time we arrived in the Carrefour, I began to realize that jamón was also a national dish and source of Catalonian pride. The legs were curing on display all over the store, suspended, sitting on shelves, you name it. Just ready to shave off a few slices. It wasn't until I arrived home and researched jamón and then tried to obtain it stateside when I realized what a treasure it really is.

eden_hazardabout 2 hours ago
I thought I was alone in doing that and the writer felt the said. I love going to markets in places i travel to and seeing the different types of snacks they have. Often times I do walk in for toothpaste but then wander all around the store.
asteroidburgerabout 2 hours ago
Oh I totally love sampling all the new-to-me snacks. And they make great gifts for back home too. (Just mind what your country does and does not allow across its borders.)
Animatsabout 3 hours ago
Three pictures from Getty Images and generic copy. Was this assembled by an AI?

An instagrammer visiting a konbini in Kyoto would be far more interesting.

(If you want that experience in coastal California, visit a Nijiya Market.)

gruezabout 3 hours ago
>Three pictures from Getty Images and generic copy. Was this assembled by an AI?

Back in the day it would just be called a "slow news day"

graypeggabout 2 hours ago
> Three pictures from Getty Images

And written in the first person, about the author's trip to Japan and Greece...? Maybe there's some licensing issue with using their own photos but it's very funny to pair the sentence:

    > in a Tokyo 7-Eleven, and I am standing shoulder to shoulder with a dozen tourists, all clutching baskets loaded with the same things: fluffy egg mayo sandwiches, katsu curry buns, matcha Kit Kats and warm cans of Boss coffee pulled from heated shelves.
with a photo of someone standing in an empty supermarket, with no basket, buying tofu from a chilled shelf.
p1dda13 minutes ago
BBC is literally trash, I just ignore everything BBC since a decade and have never regretted it
hparadizabout 2 hours ago
Nijiya is pretty good by American standards but I still find it lacking compared to actual Japan in many ways.
_--__--__about 1 hour ago
I live near the SF location and the biggest issues seem outside of their control: tax/import costs making things way more expensive than I know they would be in Japan plus spiky demand for the prepared food limiting the quality/quantity they can offer.

The main issue that's actually on them is the authentic Japanese aisle width which doesn't work at all for the size or manners of Americans.

hparadizabout 1 hour ago
I shop at the Sawtelle LA location regularly. They always have premium beef and fish cuts. Especially toro grade tuna. Demand isn't very spiky here. Every time I go there's a lot of people. They have Japanese Wagyu and most of the aisles are Japanese sourced. It's just that it's quite small.
paxys34 minutes ago
Not all slop content is AI generated. Remember the glory days of Buzzfeed? Stock images surrounded by puff pieces is quality pre-AI space filler.
TitaRusellabout 1 hour ago
As a Dutch citizen the most important thing is walking around looking at the prices and see how cheap everything is.

Well there are a few insane places like Switzerland or Aruba.

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hparadizabout 2 hours ago
The Russia example with canned fish is spot on. American supermarkets rarely have canned fish in tomato sauce but it's one of my favorite ways to eat it.
mixmastamyk5 minutes ago
Interesting. A few weeks ago we were running out of food and ended up with a can of tuna with olive oil over spaghetti and sauce. Despite my initial misgivings it was surprisingly good.