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dinklebergabout 1 hour ago
I recently discovered that you need to have Siri enabled for Apple CarPlay. I expect we're going to see a lot of this where when you disable the AI functionality the devs won't have put in fallback states and you'll be effectively locked out. With CarPlay for instance there is no reason that I shouldn't be able to listen to my music or use the map without Siri. But things like responding to texts does rely on Siri, so just gate that piece. It is rather unfortunate.
mark_l_watson14 minutes ago
On our car I can hook up my iPhone via Bluetooth to listen to audio books and music, bypassing carplay.
goaliecaabout 1 hour ago
I was very upset about this. I had a rental car and I needed to enter on the map where I wanted to go. Even with a damn keyboard it wanted Siri. It’s just gps and i had to dig my phone out and do the typing there instead.
sublinearabout 1 hour ago
Fallback states are generally a ton of work that don't benefit the direction that the PM or broader business would want to go anyway.

It's a pet peeve of mine that we often say "devs" when we really mean "the business". It seems to be gamers who started this language. They'll even call the publisher "the devs".

rad-babout 1 hour ago
Such a cool guide to such a bizarre problem we live in…

Companies forcing features that nobody wants, but that are also expensive to operate and cost real money to run? Market can definitely stay irrational for long.

freeone3000about 1 hour ago
Nobody using it is actually the ideal outcome. AI features are added, at no additional cost to the consumer, to extract money from investors. If customers began using the product, this feature would actually start having an ongoing cost.
bluefirebrandabout 1 hour ago
I really do wonder if the market is being irrational or if we just cannot see what they are

I suspect that many people dislike AI but are begrudgingly using it. I would put money very few people are completely avoiding it. It's very hard to avoid now anyways.

Maybe the AI company strategy is really just "make it so invasive in life it's so difficult to avoid and expensive enough to revert that companies and governments will never go back anyways"

mark_l_watson12 minutes ago
Good list! Removing as much as possible all AI and surveillance features, then carefully adding back the very few I want is the way I roll.
nemomarxabout 1 hour ago
Anyone know a good way to disable the ai summary on Google results? I know I should move over to kagi, but a ublock filter or something would still be nice.
jdubabout 1 hour ago
Add `udm=14` to the Google search query string... e.g. I changed my browser's default search engine shortcut.
apazzolini27 minutes ago
`google.com##.hdzaWe` blocks the AI summary. This is better than udm=14 because it doesn't suppress the other sometimes-useful non-AI Google answer blocks.
IsTom42 minutes ago
For single queries adding `-fuck` works.
josefritzishereabout 1 hour ago
I have found that Element Hider and similar extensions will also block some of the worst features in the browser.
cryo32about 1 hour ago
The trick I use is to immediately go "fuck it I'm not using that product"

I'm remarkably free of any intrusive AI.

josefritzishereabout 1 hour ago
It's a sad state of affairs when companies are cramming this unwanted garbage into every app putting the onus on the user to block, disable, unsubscribe, delete, edit and mitigate. Nobody asked for AI slop.