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Ask HN: Is this the worst time to be human?

bbg117 about 3 hours ago 24 comments

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With AI doing much of the work, how do we humans keep life interesting? Ex:- 1.Generate much of the code and remove the joy of developers that they had over all these years. 2. Generate Animation videos/movies or Anime books. People who make a living by drawing because they like it will feel all the more miserable. 3. May be more scenarios can be listed

If you are into a particular profession because you like it and get paid in addition, you have every reason to be miserable/ depressed.

what are your thoughts? 1. Is this the beginning of golden age for people who does not have any good skill but just mediocre who will make a killing by using AI tools and drive away people who are into a certain profession because of passion? 2. Are creative people doomed? 3. What options are available ? 4. Looks like greed is causing miserable lives for everyone. 5. Perhaps passionate people will continue to do things the "old way" but cannot make a living or compete with AI folks. For ex:- drawing animation by hand will become less economical compared with AI generated unless you are faster than a speeding bullet?

Please share your thoughts. Thanks

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mikewarot17 minutes ago
We're at the end of a supernaturally stable era, returning to the mean. The labor demand outstripped the supply in the US from it's founding until about 1970. This allowed the normal working man to support a family, house, car, kids, vacations, etc.

The Dollar was completely debased to it's current fiat status in 1971, and now buys about 2% of what it used to. Real wages have fallen as labor supply was almost doubled thanks to the influx of women into the work force, and reduction of demand due to automation starting in the 1960s.

However, this is the best time to be alive, on average. If you can get it, modern medicine performs at levels that would have seemed miraculous a century ago. Even if you're broke, antibiotics and other over-the counter drugs can save you from things that would have killed our ancestors. They routinely died from scratches that got infected, parasites in the water, and malnutrition.

If you live below your means, and associate with others who share that goal, you can have a quite happy life.

As far as college, it's not worth it unless you're going to be a Nurse or an Engineer. (Not a programmer with stolen valor, that's a different job, and you don't need a degree)

dgllghr36 minutes ago
What I’m reading into what you are saying: this is the most uncertain time to be alive. And I think that is true. Societal change at this pace is a relatively new thing for humans, and it’s speeding up. Simultaneously, we are losing many anchors and touchstones at once. In the past, even in times of great uncertainty, there were always constants that humans could lean on. From family, to country, to religion, to occupation, even to art and media. That is less and less the case. Everything is uncertain, everywhere, all at once.
discordanceabout 3 hours ago
Worth a watch:

Don't Take the Black Pill - Andrew Kelley | SSW 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLZwpH5lCD4

Supermancho24 minutes ago
536 AD was the absolute worst time to be alive.

This is a revisiting of a question that has been asked many times.

johnbarron21 minutes ago
This year is not over yet....
underdeserverabout 2 hours ago
watwutabout 1 hour ago
It is not the worst time, but also not the best time at all. Things can get and actually get both better and worst over time.

Dont use hedonistic treadmill theory to devalue what people actually say. Having crap we dont care loosing available does not mean everything is consistently better.

ravenstine24 minutes ago
I'd rather be alive now than during the Ice Age.

However, I think we may live in the worst time in terms of predicting one's own future, as well as the future of our children. I haven't managed to have kids, but if I had any right now, I'd have no idea on how to guide them into adulthood without effectively bullshitting them in some way. My advice would probably end up being 10x worse than Boomer advice, even if I tried my very best to be in touch with the times. For instance, if my hypothetical son told me that some day he wanted to be a programmer like I am, how am I supposed to encourage him without straight up lying? My role already is very different than it was a couple years ago, and it may have little resemblance (or not even exist at all) in another decade. The same goes for my first career as an animator; the need for those skills is rapidly going extinct. Animated 99.999% of animated content will undoubtedly be created by people who know absolutely nothing about what we understood to be animation fundamentals up to now. I really have to wonder how any young people today can be motivated knowing that their career might as well be over before they even attend their first university class.

everyday7732about 1 hour ago
It's not the worst time, but it is incredibly unstable. We peaked 10-15 years ago.
spottedmarleyabout 2 hours ago
No matter the time or place, being human is pretty much as good as it gets. Would you rather be a horse? or an ostrich?
buffalobuffalo32 minutes ago
Or a factory chicken. Do you have any idea how many more factory chicken lives have come and gone as opposed to human lives?
acheron5 minutes ago
Not to mention shrimp!
kyproabout 1 hour ago
Everyone is taking a very bad faith view of what you're saying.

I don't think you're arguing this is the worse time in all of human history to live, but that this period we are now entering broadly speaking is the worse for our humanity in many ways.

I think the latter could be true, at least for some of us. There's many things that gave my life meaning which I've abruptly stopped doing as a result of AI – and no one has given me a good reason to want to continue pursuing those things.

- I used to write a technical blog and published technical books. There is absolutely no point in me doing this anymore. I've spent years of my life writing and I'd now advise people to use AI over reading anything I've ever written. Acknowledging this makes me physically hurt because it was a huge sense of pride for me in the recent past.

- I used to write music. I'd argue there's absolutely no point in anyone wasting their time with music now. Unless you're extremely talented AI is going to do a better job than you. Unless you get a kick out of prompting AI to produce music or enjoy creating subpar music there's no point.

- I've spend decades of my life coding. It's my number 1 passion in life. It's the thing I loved doing more than anything as a teen. But I no longer code. AI is broadly superhuman at all coding, and even where it's not it's quite there yet it's far faster for me to tell AI what code to write. This isn't remotely enjoyable, but I'll do it for a while more just for the money.

- I used to do a fair amount of casual photo editing and VFX for people. It was a bit of a side hobby from when I was a teen, but I was decent enough. I'd never do this anymore. For almost all small projects people are better off using AI.

Elsewhere I no longer ask humans to do things for me:

- I don't need to pay human to design things for me anymore

- I don't need humans to pay humans for translations

- I don't need to pay humans for technical knowledge I don't have

I genuinely don't know what people are doing on computers where they're finding meaning anymore. For me I'm just checking out and growing my own food, building furniture, raising my chickens, etc. None of it gives me creative meaning, but at least I feel like I'm accomplishing something.

My sense is that AI appeals to the types of people video game cheat codes appeal to. If you feel satisfaction from completing games with unlimited health, then you probably love AI. I'm not that person. I like things I do to be hard with high barriers to entry. If I can talk to an LLM and do something it's pointless in my eyes.

GPerson8 minutes ago
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying except I’m still choosing to create things, knowing full-well the computer can (or will be able to) do better. I’m going to choose to create things that are interesting or challenging, and I’m going to share them with a few friends in my vicinity.

“I used to write music. I'd argue there's absolutely no point in anyone wasting their time with music now. Unless you're extremely talented AI is going to do a better job than you. Unless you get a kick out of prompting AI to produce music or enjoy creating subpar music there's no point.”

I do disagree with this conclusion. Screwing around on the keyboard is fun, and I imagine people who actually make music like yourself have fun doing structured versions of that. Why deny yourself that enjoyment? It’s not like there weren’t more talented people around before the AI craze started (presumably) at making songs. This can be cured with a perspective shift I’m quite confident.

carlosjobim18 minutes ago
Step away from the computer for a while. There's a whole world which isn't digital.
jjgreenabout 3 hours ago
Looks like greed is causing miserable lives for everyone

True, but not exactly a new thing

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quickthrowmanabout 1 hour ago
Not even close. I’d rather be alive now than in the eastern Mediterranean circa 530-550 AD, to name but one awful period in human history.

Riots over chariot races burned or destroyed half of Constantinople in 532: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots

A volcanic winter started in 536: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter_of_536

Plague of Justinian began in 541 AD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_of_Justinian

I’d also rather live now than in China during the Taiping Rebellion.

MotoriXabout 2 hours ago
I don’t know, I think it’s not that black and white. People who genuinely live for their work will probably keep coding because they enjoy it, but if they need to use AI to be more productive, they’ll have to adopt it. After all, people invented the wheel because they were lazy and wanted to make things easier and more profitable. I think AI is just another wheel...
toomuchtodoabout 3 hours ago
Everyone's experience will be different, make the best of it. Life is mostly luck, but you have some choices sometimes, control what you can to the best of your ability.
AnimalMuppetabout 2 hours ago
No. No, no, no. This isn't just after a volcanic eruption, where we're facing starvation because crops won't grow, and there's plague that we're too weak from hunger to fight off. This isn't the bubonic plague, where one-third of people in Europe died. This isn't 1913, where we were about to go through WWI, and then the Great Depression, and then WWII. This is "we don't know what jobs are going to look like in five years, and we're experiencing high levels of job dissatisfaction". This is nothing like real hard times.

How is it all going to play out? I have no idea. Career advice? Stay flexible and willing to learn, but I can't give any concrete advice.

sejjeabout 1 hour ago
This is easily the best time there's ever been to be a human. And while I think many creatures' existence is pleasant, I would never trade the human experience for another.

I think the world is what you make it, in Western countries (standard caveats like disabilities). I empathize with misery experienced in other places, but it has nothing to do with AI. It has to do with humans, bad decisions, power monopolies.

Anyone miserable in America is choosing it, or very unlucky.

hersko3 minutes ago
This is obviously correct. It's wild to me that you are getting downvoted.
garciasnabout 1 hour ago
Yeah; /this/ is the worst time to be a human. Right.

We have the ability not to die of previously common disease.

We are the most educated and wealthy population ever.

We have arguably one of the longest collective lifespans.

We don’t necessarily have to commit labor for the wealthy without any pay at all.

But we have the threat of climate change; something no generation before 100y ago considered at all.

We have the supposed, but possible, threat of AI changing things for us, something no one could have possibly concerned themselves with previously.

We have instant access to all of the worlds knowledge in the palms of our hands and we can travel to any point on Earth within 24h or less for relatively little money.

Most of us have access to shelter, power, food and water.

Yeah; it’s definitely not the worst time to be alive. But we have to worry about things that might not come to pass instead of worrying about what definitely will come to be like prior generations.

Absurd.

HeyLaughingBoyabout 1 hour ago
Generating "engagement" by making ridiculously outlandish statements has gotten so common that it's impossible to distinguish them from people who are just hopelessly naive.