Zellij 0.45.0: nested sessions, Kitty graphics, a fresh UI

Spartan-S63•18 minutes ago

I'm curious for folks who use multiplexers: I've tried tmux and Zellij and if I used a multiplexer, it would be Zellij. However, I can't stand losing terminal real estate, but I don't know why that is. How do you deal with the loss of real estate from a multiplexer?

I use Ghostty, so new tabs and splits don't feel that strange to me. I'm guessing the feature I'm missing out on is session resumption and presets? If I leaned into that more, then a multiplexer would be worth the potential drawbacks?

ilioscio•about 3 hours ago

Switched to Zellij a few years back mostly for the sane defaults, I expected to come crawling back to tmux, but it's actually stuck quite nicely and has become a staple in my workflow. It hasn't been a perfect experience, but I like it a lot and I'm happy to see a new feature-rich release like this.

sph•about 3 hours ago

Being cheeky here, but how many terminal emulators and multiplexers do we need?

What is driving the Cambrian explosion of CLI tools in the last ~5 years?

I’ve been using Linux since 2001 and use standard Konsole on zsh. I have a graphical desktop environment to deal with windows and showing pictures alongside them. Is it perhaps because I am an Emacs person that all I need exist within its loving embrace?

orbital-decay•about 2 hours ago

TUI got back into fashion and it seems like everyone is trying hard to reinvent GUI in a really roundabout way, like hacking Braille to display graphs. I think the circle will be complete with the support for proportional fonts for readability, like in Emacs. Character sizing is already (kind of) a thing, which ridiculously enables Markdown rendering in a terminal.

Man, I really want a proper GUI framework with this kind of energy behind it.

sph•about 2 hours ago

A look at the VT100 standard was enough for me to decide building "modern" GUIs on top of that is truly the definition of madness and bloat.

Why go through all that effort and leaky abstractions to display GUIs when you can just bitblt pixels from memory to a framebuffer directly?

iamnothere•22 minutes ago

Aesthetics, running TUI tools headless over SSH, zero possibility of Electron (although I’ve seen TUI tools written in node which is almost as bad), no worries about X/Wayland jankiness.

Frameworks like bubbletea make it very easy these days.

I think there’s a limit though, a good TUI shouldn’t be “modern”, it should be like the old TUIs that ran auto shops and accounting systems. TUIs that are information dense, keyboard-driven, and snappy are hard to beat.

_bobm•about 3 hours ago

What is the purpose of the "zellij" in the top left corner and why isn't there an option to remove it?

raindown•about 2 hours ago

Project outreach, to keep spreading the word through screenshots etc. This is a free projects with no marketing, to the logo is a sort of branding.

tveyben•about 2 hours ago

It’s the (very small) price you pay for a great and free product (I think it’s great!!!). If you don’t like that ‘feature’ you’re not forced to use it ;-)

Zellij 0.45.0: nested sessions, Kitty graphics, a fresh UI

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