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shermantanktop34 minutes ago
> Recently, I was at a baseball game with my partner. One of the reasons I enjoy going to baseball games in person is to watch the crowd. As I looked around, however, I noticed something different: many people had tuned out of the game and were instead on their phones, talking to various chatbots: ChatGPT, Claude and Grok.

I’d like the author to describe how they knew what specific applications these many people were using on their phones, all around them at a baseball game.

Many of them were actually on social media, which itself is a form of algorithmically driven mass influence. But because the content was typed in by other people, we’re ok with it, while the robotic token producer we call AI is an evil force?

nh23423fefeabout 2 hours ago
I thought Chrono Cross was terrible, even more so when you consider how amazing Chrono Trigger was.
marginalia_nuabout 2 hours ago
Both are pretty good, but if you go into the former expecting the latter, you're in for a disappointment. The former is best enjoyed as a separate experience.
areoformabout 2 hours ago
I think a better framework to look at it is the follow quote from Terminator 2: Judgment Day,

    Watching John with the machine, it was suddenly so clear. The terminator would never stop. 
    
    It would never leave him, and it would never hurt him, never shout at him, or get drunk and hit him, or say it was too busy to spend time with him. It would always be there. And it would die to protect him. 
    
    Of all the would-be fathers who came and went over the years, this thing, this machine, was the only one who measured up. In an insane world, it was the sanest choice.
In so many ways, I am deeply uncomfortable with how these entities are being shepherded. However, at the same time, what they promise, what they offer is worth foregoing that risk.

Not everyone in this world gets to have a father. Or, mother, a teacher, a safe place, a patient ear.

Provided we don't spike the ball, as these systems grow in sophistication, they also grow in their ability to provide care. In a cruel world, I can see their descendants becoming the most humane choice, especially for those most at risk from the world.

A machine that never tires, with infinite patience, resolve and care, looking out for the person that they're assigned to and growing with them and through them.

It's why everyone needs to be able to tinker, experiment and play with them. The right to access. The right to create. The right to grow these machines... And eventually, we'll need ti start having some very uncomfortable conversations about Silicon rights.

gorjusborgabout 1 hour ago
This point of view is twisted and disturbing.

I'm sorry for those who don't have people in their lives, but machines aren't a substitute, and that lack shouldn't be used to justify a right to unbounded freedom to experiment without regard for the possible negative consequences.

areoformabout 1 hour ago
The point of technology is to alleviate want. We wanted for food, therefore we created better technology to grow food. We wanted for shelter, therefore we created technologies to give us shelter...

For someone starving, it matters not that their fortified oatmeal ration is tasteless gruel. It's food. Is it the ideal apotheosis of food? Of course not. Nor is it a hearty meal of pot roast, stew and potatoes. But it is something.

There are a lot of people who are very vulnerable in this world, and providing them with an entity that will act in their ethical interest – helping to grow, and giving them paths to resources and human community – is an infinitely better outcome than them falling through the cracks and ending up in abusive relationships or cults and gangs.

I think it's the most humane application of technology possible. It ameliorates a fundamental want with a healthy stopgap, and it's something humans have longed fantasized about.

PaulHouleabout 2 hours ago
One of the ways post-humanism manifests in The Terminator franchise: a biological man can never measure up to a mechanical man.
genxyabout 2 hours ago
I am not jealous of the Rabbit 2000, I am in awe.
marginalia_nuabout 1 hour ago
NG Resonance from Deus Ex II is arguably an even more on-point comparison.
PaulHouleabout 3 hours ago
Are they chatting with chatbots or betting on sports?
MarkusQabout 2 hours ago
Bingo.

Some of them we probably also live streaming their reactions to the game. And some were working. And I'll bet more than a few were doom scrolling. Or playing Pokemon. Or arguing politics online (possibly with bots, but not knowingly). Or doing one of the 50000 things that I haven't heard of.

derefrabout 2 hours ago
Some of them were probably using an LLM as a fancy search engine to look up the rules of baseball.
acheronabout 2 hours ago
The Red Sox/Blue Jays game recently when the “fourth out” rule came into play probably could have used an LLM explanation.
PaulHouleabout 1 hour ago
Reminds me of the poorly coached American football team I saw that gave up 150 yards in penalties and got “offsides” so many times I thought it was the other kind of football.
Game_Enderabout 2 hours ago
They could even be asking chatbots about how to bet.
Aprecheabout 2 hours ago
How naive of you to think it was by accident.