White House Says Access Is a 'Privilege' in Court Filing Defending Media Ban

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frogperson•about 1 hour ago

Rights must be demanded and defended constanrly, otherwise some tin pot dictator will take them without much of a fight.

Do you what your rights or not?

AndrewKemendo•about 1 hour ago

If someone else can take it away it was never a right

onjectic•27 minutes ago

The right to say useless crap on the internet seems to be in no immediate danger.

mock-possum•5 minutes ago

If you frame it that way we have hardly any rights at all though - it would completely preclude rights like free speech, assembly, fair trial etc

So what’s the use in using that framing? What good is it?

skinfaxi•40 minutes ago

People can take your life from you, do you not have the right to live?

AndrewKemendo•34 minutes ago

No you don’t, thousands of people are murdered everyday

There is nothing and nobody guaranteeing your life

legitster•about 1 hour ago

What's crazy is when asked at one point, Trump specifically referred to it as the "ban on free press". So rhetorically it's not like he's dancing around the constitutionality.

Neywiny•about 1 hour ago

First term was somewhat coy. Second term is "yes we're violating the Constitution/law. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing? Ok cool I'll go do that again" over and over and over

dataflow•about 1 hour ago

I feel like this they're deliberately framing it this way to lay a trap for the courts, because accepting this framing doesn't really seem to leave a whole lot of legal wiggle room. After all, legally speaking, what is it exactly, if not a privilege? If it's a right, then basically any citizen should be allowed in, subject to fair/non-discriminatory constraints, like capacity... is/should that be the case? If it's neither then what is it?

bradleyjg•35 minutes ago

> because accepting this framing doesn't really seem to leave a whole lot of legal wiggle room.

No, it’s not a problem. The government can’t grant or withdraw a privilege for impermissible reasons.

skinfaxi•37 minutes ago

Courts navigate this fine line already even for their own courtrooms. There are restrictions on rights like time/place restrictions, for instance.

iAMkenough•about 1 hour ago

I’m curious how a Jan. 6 insurrectionist would answer this question.

Any pardoned felons here?

White House Says Access Is a 'Privilege' in Court Filing Defending Media Ban

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