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ChrisArchitect1 day ago
Related:

Canonical/Ubuntu have been under DDoS for more than 15h

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47972213

nubinetwork1 day ago
That says resolved, but I had a hell of a time trying to run apt update still...
pjjpoabout 4 hours ago
Interesting - this was randomly in my feed but indeed today, I upgraded my server and didn't know at the time why all the apt requests were so slow. That being said, it sped up to full over time - I wonder if this is actually an effect of the DDoS or they added some infra to throttle at first and eventually determine if an IP is making valid requests.
Lambdanaut1 day ago
Does anyone know why Ubuntu would be targeted by pro-Iranian activists? I'm perplexed by the connection.
culi1 day ago
Canonical partners with organizations like the U.S. Air Force (USAF) and Platform One to provide secure software and AI/ML capabilities. They have an entire DOD team.
leereeves1 day ago
I can't find much info about that (especially with their website down). Is Canonical's work with the DOD more like Raytheon or Pizza Hut?

Raytheon: providing products specifically for the DOD

Pizza Hut: selling their usual product to the DOD

culi1 day ago
Pizza Hut does not have a permanent DoD team. Canonical has actual contracts. You'll have to wait till their site is back up to read about it

https://canonical.com/blog/meet-the-canonical-federal-and-do...

input_sh1 day ago
An actual answer because all you've received so far is complete nonsense: because they want press attention as they're using these attacks to advertise their DDoS-as-a-Service tool. Literally every single statement they release (on Telegram) includes text saying that their attacks are "100% powered by $websiteEndingWithDotSu".

They also attacked the likes of Vrbo, Expedia and eBay, but they get more press by targeting Mastodon, Bluesky, Ubuntu and the likes, so they go after those now. People are desperately trying to somehow tie those victims to some ideological nonsense, but it's just advertising.

lostmsuabout 13 hours ago
It might be "just advertising", but this also moves them from "I am pretending to retaliate" to "fuck everyone", and eventually will lead to formal recognition of Russia as terrorist state with targets painted at their backs.

There's also Anonymous that for the time being forgot about Russia.

everdrive1 day ago
Almost certainly a target of opportunity. The UK has really made a point of staying out of this fight, but is also seen as a close ally of the US. Perhaps the calculus is:

- Iran was able to attack Ubuntu.com

- Iran sees it in its interests to stress the UK / US relationship (albeit in a small way)

ifwinterco1 day ago
UK has been trying to thread the needle of staying out of what is obviously a complete cluster** of a war while also not annoying the US too much, but US bombers are taking off from air force bases in the UK to bomb Iran all the time.

Because of that and the general ingrained hostility of the permanent UK security state to Iran, they view us as a legitimate target albeit not a particularly important one because we’re just not that powerful anymore

PearlRiver1 day ago
Yeah when Americans talk about how bad a deal NATO is they always conveniently forget the military bases. Most of their wars tend to involve Ramstein for example.
geerlingguy1 day ago
Why would Ubuntu problems cause stress in the US/UK relationship?
CamouflagedKiwi1 day ago
I suppose the idea was that Canonical is a UK-based company and they're being threatened by the US's enemy.

Having said that, I really can't believe that either Trump or Starmer will give a shit about this, especially given the recent friction in that relationship.

spwa41 day ago
Perhaps it's just that Iran believes it's only chance for victory is maximum public attention, and they don't have any real hacker know-how. So they pick a soft but well known target.

It's what they do to students inside Iran.

b00ty4breakfast1 day ago
It's a well(ish) known org with well known product, and they seem to have been vulnerable. If they had attacked a deli in Newark, would we be having this conversation?
culi1 day ago
Canonical literally has a DOD team. They are a military contractor
theultdev1 day ago
Terrorists will generally target anything of opportunity.

It was also perplexing when Iran was shooting missiles at their allies, until you realize they aren't rational humans.

swat5351 day ago
Which allies are you talking about? Gulf nations with US bases actively being used to kill their children?
sophrosyne421 day ago
You say "actively" as if it wasn'y a one-off event... maybe because Iran is forcing children to sit at IRGC checkpoints or other military targets?

None of the gulf countries allowed offensive US strikes to occur from their territory. Its all used to defend against attacks from Iran trying to kill Gulf country children.

AlecSchueler1 day ago
> they aren't rational humans.

Would you be able to point to any rational humans?

_DeadFred_1 day ago
Maybe ones who don't follow supreme religious leaders that called for the gunning down of 3000 men, women, and children in the streets. And then approve beatings/the murder of doctors that treated them.

Imagine that being your moral leadership. And 3000 is the official Iranian number. Some claim as high as 30,000. Those religious leaders are calling for more murder/death in todays Friday prayers. I don't know how anyone who calls for (or especially signs off on in a religious theocracy) murder can be called spiritual leaders or anyone could follow their 'teachings' .

Edit: Just highlighting the horrors/behaviors you are normalizing/waive away as 'shared by everyone' with your statement 'but what humans aren't like this'.

skeledrew1 day ago
> until you realize they aren't rational humans

How did you get to that realization?

mrala1 day ago
> It was also perplexing when Iran was shooting missiles at their allies, until you realize they aren't rational humans.

Ah yes, the classic “my enemies are ontologically evil” gambit.

CamperBob21 day ago
I'm not sure dismissing the people who invented the term "checkmate" as a bunch of irrational terrorists really works. They stared down Saddam Hussein, so how hard can it be to stare down Donald Trump?

Bombing Iran is like nuking an asteroid. Now, instead of one giant asteroid on a collision course with Earth, there are a half-dozen medium-sized radioactive asteroids on a collision course with Earth.

dirasieb1 day ago
was iran a muslim theocracy when they invented the word “checkmate”?

congrats on the glorious past or whatever, in the actual present iran is a failed state ran and supported by loons

DetroitThrow1 day ago
They work with US military.
ranger_danger1 day ago
313 Team claims their attack is vengeance for killing Khamenei.
_DeadFred_1 day ago
Iran is targeting random ships crewed by third world/unaligned national crews in the straight. Iran's goal is do whatever it takes to put pressure. They are willingly threatening the food supply of large unaligned parts of the world because it gives them leverage/puts on pressure.

Iran's proxies murdered random grandmothers on Oct 7th and uploaded the video to the internet to get a message across in order to promote their agenda. Why would a random tech company be odd from people funding the murderer of grandmas and their entire families in their homes execution style?

The UK called in the ambassador from Iran this week because they were calling for Iranian expats in the UK to give up their lives for Iran (followed the next day by attacks on jews in the UK).

at-fates-hands1 day ago
Canonical is a UK company, so its a symbolic attack against a Western agent. Ubuntu is used by a lot of tech companies so they knew this attack would get a lot of visibility in the tech community. I'm assuming they think this will garner support from the tech community as well.
shaftoe1 day ago
Exactly as described in "how to win friends and influence people". Break their stuff and extort money.
thewebguyd1 day ago
> I'm assuming they think this will garner support from the tech community as well.

I don't understand their thinking if this is the case. DDoSing widely used project is going to turn people against you, not generate support.

Gualdrapo1 day ago
Still it feels quite odd that from all western tech companies (and several more influential than Canonical) they chose precisely one that is highly involved with open source
culi1 day ago
All these comments saying it's just a salient target are making it up. Canonical is a military contractor. They literally have an entire DoD team. That's why they're being targeted. They're far from the only military contractor to be targeted by Iranian hackers this year
alephnerd1 day ago
Welcome to war. This was why the Qatar attack was so destabilizing.

Iran's position is that any organization that is in any shape or form aligned with the US and West is a target.

And being an anti-war westerner won't help you. People are forgetting that the Iranian government detests Israel and the entirety of the West.

The core principals of the revolution which is the IRGC's entire ideological basis is reversing westoxification (Gharbzadegi) and returning to the norms of the Imam Husayn (Velayat-e Faghih).

anotherviewhere1 day ago
You should have seen so many lies about Iran by now to justify the neocolonial war against them: so why do you assume every time some newly reported "fact" about them to be true? Rather, you should assume the opposite.
throwuxiytayq1 day ago
There is such a thing as being too open-minded to form an accurate perception of reality.
b00ty4breakfast1 day ago
I think the saying is "so open-minded your brain fell out"
Havoc1 day ago
Sounds like they're picking on easy targets rather than relevant ones. Lame.
overtone10001 day ago
313 Team runs arch btw
kps1 day ago
I'd have guessed Mint.
TheChaplain1 day ago
Considering the name of the crew, the title would be better off with "Pro-Iran regime". It is a small but important difference.
cineticdaffodil1 day ago
Its so weird to have this stone age regime have such modern attack vectors, i guess the survival hunger games of rhe sanctions tought them this lesson.
Animats1 day ago
Ubuntu.com seems to be fine right now. A bit slow, maybe. Ubuntu 26.04.LTS is out.
54lasgf1 day ago
This is really a weird target, as the article notes. Bluesky and Mastodon (?!) also had alleged attacks.

The companies that fund Trump's ballroom might like these targets.

gpm1 day ago
Bluesky and mastodon both strike me as easy targets, they expose protocol level integration points that are probably reasonably expensive to serve and reasonably difficult to detect malicious actors on and/or throttle without significantly degrading the service.

I could see low budget attackers deciding that they were the most (not very much) bang for the (also not very much) buck that they could get...

Ubuntu.com doesn't fit that narrative though. I would have thought canonical would have the servers and skill to weather quite a large attack (on the other hand it did go down...)

ohneiabout 23 hours ago
The first goal of the Vienna Congress was to make sure everyone had to be under the protection of a Dictator. Even if the dictators would rather have each other's stuff, not having a system that sustains them is an existential crisis.
SeanAnderson1 day ago
... but https://ubuntu.com/ is up?
ramon1561 day ago
Been down most of the day for me, as well as a bunch of related domains. Canonical's status page has them linked
CamouflagedKiwi1 day ago
Not for me, I'm not getting any response from it.
z5001 day ago
Loads for me, but not particularly quickly
sureste1 day ago
It's loading, but very slowly.
dotancohen1 day ago
That's just because everybody is checking if it is down.

I bet a fair number of websites would collapse under the curiosity load if it were published in major news outlets they they were down. When was the last time you went to nissan.com? But you'd probably go check if you heard it was down.

SoftTalker1 day ago
Not loading for me right now.
_DeadFred_1 day ago
dead here
jcgrillo1 day ago
just now:

  $ snap refresh
  error: unable to contact snap store
wing-_-nuts1 day ago
Tangent, but I hate snap with the fury of a thousand suns. That single handedly pushed me to pop, then mint.
newsoftheday1 day ago
Same, I use Kubuntu but yeah, I do keep snap disabled. Tried it several years ago, can't stand it. I do like Canonical and Ubuntu for servers and of course, Kubuntu for all our home machines, wife loves it too.
jcgrillo1 day ago
Yeah it isn't great. I have stuck with Ubuntu because I have some peculiar hardware which is well supported. I have learned to live with it.
CivBase1 day ago
> Why the group is targeting London-based Canonical remains unclear and no reason was given via its Telegram channel. It is presumably because Ubuntu is one of the most popular Linux distros.

Okay... so? I do not understand the connection between Linux and the US/Israel. You'd think Iran would be very pro-Linux since Windows is a very obvious liability for them.

Is there any reason to believe this attack even has anything to do with Iran? They could simply want money and they just happen to also be pro-Iran.

tempaccount50501 day ago
Maybe they're still mad about systemd.
loloquwowndueo1 day ago
Systemd was NOT Canonical’s “fault”. They pushed upstart until Debian chose systemd, at that point it made no sense to resist assimilation like all other distros.
culi1 day ago
It's not Linux, it's Ubuntu. Which is developed by Canonical. Which is a military contractor that has a permanent DoD team and works with the USAF. Which is bombing their country.
alephnerd1 day ago
> I do not understand the connection between Linux and the US/Israel. You'd think Iran would be very pro-Linux since Windows is a very obvious liability for them

Canonical is a British company and the employees are westerners. That makes them targets in the eyes of Iran.

People are forgetting that the Iranian government detests Israel and the entirety of the West. The core principal of the revolution is reversing westoxification (Gharbzadegi) and returning to the norms of the Imam Husayn (Velayat-e Faghih). That's the whole crux of the Islamic Revolution and why the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp (IRGC) exists.

Open source and anti-war westerners are viewed opportunistically but with disdain.

aksss1 day ago
Classic Scorpion and the Frog tale, or the older Farmer and the Snake. https://read.gov/aesop/094.html
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