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SwellJoe20 minutes ago
A lot of my earliest programming experiences were with Pascal. Apple Pascal in high school on Apple IIe and II+ machines. Later, Turbo Pascal on my dad's PC. I worked with the developer of IBM's Oberon system for OS/2 something like 20 years ago, and he considered it among his favorite things he'd ever worked on.

Every time I see a Borland style interface or that weird Pascal syntax, I flash back, and remember that feeling of...something like power; the ability to make the computer do anything you wanted, not just what you could already buy/pirate on disk.

That said, there's a reason I didn't keep using Turbo Pascal once I had access to C and Perl on Linux systems. Some things are better than others, and Turbo Pascal and things like Turbo Pascal are nostalgic, but not exactly good. (Then again, I'm working on games for C64, so nostalgia does things to a body.)

lysace7 minutes ago
> Then again, I'm working on games for C64, so nostalgia does things to a body.

You should check out Turbo Rascal (...), but you probably already did.

https://lemonspawn.com/turbo-rascal-syntax-error-expected-bu... (outdated cert)

https://github.com/leuat/TRSE/

tomcamabout 3 hours ago
Can't wait to try this on Mac (English manual install intstructions at https://github.com/kekcleader/FreeOberon/commit/489c5a929bf9...). I feel like Oberon is very much worth a look for people interested in small, powerful languages.
WillAdamsabout 1 hour ago
The version which I would really like to see would be a native distribution for the Raspberry Pi of the Oberon Workstation environment --- apparently there is a problem with the drivers which makes porting difficult.
lysaceabout 2 hours ago
The linked project web site (https://free.oberon.org/en) proudly features a video with a thumbnail showing a rendition of the USSR's parliament, the so called Supreme Soviet, with some screenshots added in.

Extremely poor taste.

shrubbleabout 1 hour ago
I think some of the devs are Russian and a quick scan of the video doesn't show anything other than a shared screen for the bulk of the time (using the mouse to grab the time pointer and move it quickly through the length of the presentation).
koutakunabout 2 hours ago
GOG's nazi dogwhistle earlier this week was extremely poor taste. This one is just weird
przemub11 minutes ago
Whataboutism is in poor taste.
monkeyworkabout 1 hour ago
More info please? I have severe doubts that GOG actually had that intent.
shakna35 minutes ago
This one [0]. Which German QA picked up and said 'no way', and so German customers didn't get the newsletter. But everyone else still did.

[0] https://www.pcgamer.com/games/gog-apologizes-for-emailing-na...

eschatonabout 2 hours ago
> Extremely poor taste.

How so?

przemub2 minutes ago
Soviet imagery in countries that have been conquered by or subject to Soviet imperialism is seen extremely poorly. USSR loved its ethnic cleansing and purges, with several declared as genocide. Try, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tat... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Lentil_(Caucasus) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD Soviet imagery has also been widely used by Russian propaganda in its current war against Ukraine, so it’s not only a historical matter.
lysaceabout 2 hours ago
That's bait. Go find your history school books. Byebye.
eschatonabout 2 hours ago
How about you just explain what you mean?

You’re the one who made the statement. It’s on you to support it.

agrijakhetarpalabout 2 hours ago
"freeoberon-lang.org"