The fight against data centers has nothing to do with data centers

paradox242•about 1 hour ago

No one getting rich off data centers wants to live next to one, which kind of tells you everything you need to know. They are a gigantic externality, plunked down in the midst of people who do not benefit from them, but have to bear the costs of the noise, pollution, and increased energy and water costs.

quantified•about 1 hour ago

And amplified by the concerns in the post. Many people against them who aren't neighbors wouldn't get as exercised about the centers if they were other, familiar noxious entities. Oil refineries are a necessary evil in our current economy, for example. The AI stuff is an unnecessary evil, the majority of what it helps with is relatively trivial and the costs have been real already. The only way we get abundance from it is by losing enough population that there is more water, energy, arable land, minerals, housing, and other resources for the remaining humans.

hoppyhoppy2•about 1 hour ago

https://xcancel.com/mcuban/status/2070211760196587534

adjejmxbdjdn•about 1 hour ago

The post is not wrong. It’s just incomplete and the headline is wrong.

A lot of what Cuban is saying is true. But in the U.S., a lack of regulations means that the local effects of data centers, in terms of overloading the grid, water supplies and creating noise (and sometimes air) pollution are significant.

qsxfthnkp2322•about 2 hours ago

I don’t want to be in the permanent underclass.

emsign•about 1 hour ago

The people next door beg to differ. Also big LLMs aren't the AI we will actually be using, it's small local LLMs. These data centers are a dead and everyone knows that, even the people building them, but not the people paying for them.

dosisking•3 minutes ago

LLMs in general have a limited use, and are a dead end. So small local LLMs are also a dead end. That of course, does not stop people from using LLMs for purposes that they are not good at.

jeffrallen•15 minutes ago

Refreshing honesty from the billionaire class.

Not that being a billionaire is particularly classy.

kgwxd•about 2 hours ago

It absolutely does have to do data centers. You do not speak for the common man, dip shit.

thepryz•about 1 hour ago

The common man is grossly uninformed and highly susceptible to misinformation of which there’s a lot of around data centers.

The fight against data centers has nothing to do with data centers

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