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vanderZwan14 minutes ago
So I want to preface my next point by stating actually really like how syntax reads, hitting a sweet spot of leaning just enough into APL's symbol-focused terseness without losing the familiar structure of literally every other popular programming language ever that makes it easy to follow the code. I imagine it could be a great language to pick up for working out an algorithm with pen & paper (the best limus test for how well a language functions as pseudocode imo).

Having said that, I have my doubts about the reduced token claims because of a lack of "begin" and "end" or "{" and "}" delimiters. Surely, if your language is identation based, LLMs will treat significant whitespace as a token too, since they need to keep track of it? Which would result in an extra token per newline compared to using explicit begin/end token?

I suspect that to really optimize for tokens one would have to go the concatenative route, which significant whitespace very much isn't.

sphabout 2 hours ago
Can LLMs generate only one style of website? Inter font, dark background, elements that fade in, code in a macOS shell container, neverending lists of features, too many buzzwords.

God they all look the same, and I have permanently associated this style with slop.

That said, a fully vibe coded language created 7 hours ago and published 6. Have you built anything with it in the intervening hour to try it out at least? To make sure it does what it says on the tin. Or you just one shot the thing with Claude and published without review?

CompanyGardener36 minutes ago
I know, right. But I think you might be surprised to find a real language under the AI veneer. It won't be for everyone, but for some folks out there it will map more closely to how they already code in their head.

Either way, it has several features that walk new trails in language design, for better or worse.

The grammar has been marinating for 10+ years, but life kept getting in the way of the implementation.

Hope you'll give it a second look, would be interested to hear your opinion on the language itself.

goodwillhuntingabout 8 hours ago
This is fairly impressive, at least at first glance and hits a niche that is interesting. I think a big challenge in finding adoption for a new lang is in the application, or more specifically, when/why/where it's used. This is something I'd love to hear from folks involved in this (if reading) what they think those are and if/how that helped them shape the lang. Good luck!
CompanyGardenerabout 8 hours ago
Thanks for posting! I'm the creator of Tungsten. Ask me anything.