Footage Shows Cop Stalking Woman After Surveilling Her with a LPR

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throwaway27448•about 2 hours ago

> the cop illegally looked up her vehicle information on DAVID

It continually surprises me that these tools operate on basically trust. Why cops have direct access to these databases is baffling. I don't have much hope for florida to regulate its police but at least mandating providing a reason to use the database seems like a very reasonable thing to legislate.

samrus•11 minutes ago

Its a tradeoff between efficacy and accountability. Its tough. What access syrem would you propose? Genuinely asking

Cider9986•about 1 hour ago

That's mass surveillance for you.

FireBeyond•about 1 hour ago

Beyond that.

Flock knows what inter-agency data sharing is legal and not legal in what states. So you think they'd have the functionality to disable forbidden data sharing when they sign a new agency in that state. They don't do that. "That's not our responsibility." And not only that, but:

Agency: Could we get training on how to do [forbidden data sharing]?

Flock: Absolutely. It's illegal in your state. Now that I've said that, here's how you do it in the app.

mothballed•about 2 hours ago

This guy only got punished because he wasn't enough of a bullshit artist to come up with an implausible but not-provably-false accusation against her, and he actually said the quiet part out loud about how this is used for tyrants. If he had just stuck to the story he overheard she was slinging crack or something he'd have likely gotten away with it with little more than side eyes and maybe some refresher class for appearances.

doobiedowner•about 2 hours ago

Because republicans continue to fight each other over how much they can lick authority boot. Gone are the days of fiscal conservatives or small government… no sir they are all on board for locking this place down.

WillPostForFood•about 1 hour ago

Like the evil Republicans running San Francisco!

https://www.sf.gov/news--san-franciscos-new-public-safety-ca...

FireBeyond•about 1 hour ago

Oops, only six days later!

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/sfpd-says-license-plate-...

"San Francisco police said they have disabled access to their network of Flock Automated License Plate Reader cameras"

Also of note, how much backlash the Mayor and SFPD faced about approving the contract in the first place against public opinion.

parineum•about 2 hours ago

> Because republicans continue to fight each other over how much they can lick authority boot

Because Americans think everything is a partisan issue, despite things like this happening under multiple federal administrations of differing parties and in States that are, effectively, single party of both major parties.

mywittyname•about 2 hours ago

Just because a party is in power doesn't mean that party hasn't worked towards reform or correcting an issue. Lot's of arguments of "it happens under both parties" completely ignore corrective actions taken under one party and subverted by the other. Police in particular have an insane amount of political power and it would take decades to clean out the rot.

mothballed•about 2 hours ago

To get the party nomination you need to promise lots of things to lots of people, "I'm going to bankrupt the party favors to those who get me into power in order to help the little guy" might be a decent campaign slogan but you damn well better be pushing to put the peasants in debt/inflation as fast as possible if you actually want to get into office -- or else someone else will and snatch the nomination from you.

bluGill•about 2 hours ago

If you require a reason that is bureaucracy which people complain about for good reason. Requiring a reason adds great cost and we would rather not pay it. We might be forced to because not everybody is honest, but it is much better if we can trust others and so not have to do this.

throwaway27448•about 2 hours ago

Who on earth is complaining about bureaucracy in the police station? Maybe the VA, maybe the DMV, maybe the fish and wildlife service, but who wants the men who run around with guns and shoot people to do so without any administrative oversight?

Edit: anyway, the "bureaucratic" overhead of providing a reason seems to be unlikely to impede police work if indeed there is a legitimate reason to access these databases.

samrus•9 minutes ago

People do complain about bureacracy with the police. They dont phrase it that way. What they say is that when they need the police, its never able to help. People dont realize that in addition to the police being corrupt and lazy, its also because the systems to help can be slow and cumbersome to use effectively and quickly

Macha•about 2 hours ago

People who’ve consumed some of the decades of hollywood movies and TV shows where the hero is portrayed as having to break the rules to get their guys and people enforcing rules are portrayed as officious bureaucrats.

pavel_lishin•about 2 hours ago

> which people complain about for good reason

But bureaucracy itself exists for a good reason. The hard part is finding a balance.

bluGill•about 1 hour ago

That was my point. Finding the balance is hard.

smalltorch•about 2 hours ago

I think it's intresting to read about the guy who made yolo. Take a look at his website and later, his thoughts about the monster he may have created.

https://x.com/pjreddie/status/1230524770350817280

https://pjreddie.com/darknet/yolo/

https://medium.com/@graham.wallington/the-evolution-of-yolo-...

dabinat•about 1 hour ago

What an absolutely terrifying situation for that woman. It reminded me of a story from the UK where a police officer pulled over a woman, arrested her (for no reason) and raped and murdered her. I don’t know what you’re supposed to do in that situation because the law says you’re supposed to submit to police officers, not resist arrest, etc.

epoxia•about 2 hours ago

It's worth mentioning that the ALPR's in the Florida keys are unavoidable due to it basically being 1 road.

alexpotato•14 minutes ago

ALL car traffic in or out of Manhattan is subject to ALPR b/c all of the bridges and tunnels have ALPRs.

xnx•about 2 hours ago

Rare good news story about a cop facing consequences (arrest). Was he fired as well? I couldn't tell from the article.

andrewl•about 1 hour ago

The linked article does not say what happened to him, but if you Google his name there are lots of hits. This one says he was fired:

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/monroe-county-deputy-arr...

beej71•about 2 hours ago

The penalties for police abusing the power we grant them should be severe.

iAMkenough•30 minutes ago

Best we can do is a paid vacation and taxpayer-funded settlement, maybe transfer them to neighboring jurisdiction if they were real bad.

alexpotato•12 minutes ago

Apparently in the military, special forces in particular, this is even worse.

If you have a terrible soldier in a Tier 1 unit and you are trying to get rid of them via transfer to another unit, when asked why he is transferring you can just say "sorry, that's classified". The receiving unit then has no idea of the problems associated with that soldier.

ojbyrne•about 2 hours ago

I immediately thought this was like something from a Carl Hiaasen novel, then read “He was tracking and chasing a woman that he met and harassed on the set of the AppleTV+ show Bad Monkey.” Bad Monkey is based on a Carl Hiaasen novel.

smalltorch•about 2 hours ago

Hey, maybe we shouldn't build out this infrastructure so aggressively?