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1) I will be able to play DOOM on something.
2) I will be able to watch Bad Apple on something.
I suppose there are worse fates.
https://youtu.be/AJ2Q12vYojY
traceroute -m 60 bad.horse
Long, axe-grindy aside: I wish people had collectively decided on some other mostly-black-and-white video to use for this kind of thing than Bad Apple. As a stereotypically nerdy-looking socially awkward male in a world where that is often enough all by itself to be viewed as "a creep", I feel pressured to distance myself from anything that others might interpret as confirmation of that -- like, for example, watching anime featuring young girls dancing in an ambiguously sexual way on a computer screen. (To avoid pointless angry replies: the clip plainly can be interpreted in this way, and that suffices.) Should I have to do this? Of course not, but others' perceptions of me are what they are, and they have serious implications for my quality of life, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. All that, and I don't even like anime! And so I long for the day when BA just... goes away.
Maybe some black people feel the same way about ordering fried chicken at a restaurant, etc.
I have literally never seen someone interpret it this way in the 17 years the video has been making the rounds to tens of millions of people on the internet. There is nothing in the video that could possibly be construed as sexual by any human being with even the most tenuous grip on reality. It would take some insanely misogynistic mental gymnastics like "girl + dancing = sexual" to reach that conclusion. If someone did interpret it this way and raise a fuss, the correct response would be to ignore them for being a completely unhinged Twitter weirdo. Pre-emptively avoiding things you enjoy because of how they might be interpreted by unhinged Twitter weirdos is itself unhinged.
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Japanese media encompasses a lot more than late-night television anime. That you think it can be boiled down to only that reflects purely on your own profound ignorance. The vast majority of this content is aired after 11PM to a niche audience. Imagine how stupidly shallow it is to judge a country's culture as being inherently problematic based on what airs at midnight, because your own exposure is only that.
> And so I long for the day when BA just... goes away.
I honestly thought it had gone away. Every time I see Bad Apple, I assume a millennial weeb from the past is behind the demo and I check if the upload date is from before 2020. It usually is, and the project is now unmaintained.
Anyway, unlike Lenna, I don't think I've ever seen Bad Apple used for anything important. It's much easier to ignore. Your annoyance is valid, but only in the same sense as thinking graffiti is tacky. People don't look at it and think "Oh shit! JJ wuz here?! Watch out!".
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna
Lena Forsén sold her image rights - she's a Playboy model, but not to be used in decades of image research - whereas Henrietta was never even told her cells were being collected for science experiments at all. This isn't Tuskegee - she was given reasonable medical care for her cancer given it was 1951, but she didn't sign a waiver saying "I'm fine with you using my cell line to do whatever you want" in perpetuity.
For "Bad Apple" it's just embarrassing for some people, which doesn't even seem like a big deal.
The other thing which distinguishes Lenna is that it's obsolete. It's a scan of a Playboy magazine, not even a scan of the photo itself, let alone a direct capture of the scene - and it is by modern standards low resolution. Even if you (like modern AI companies) don't care about rights or people the Lenna image is a poor choice on technical grounds.
Bad Apple isn't like that, a substitute would just be some other black-and-white video, probably similar length and resolution.
millenial? The participation trophy generation? i was there when the old magic was written, I think you mean gen-x ;)