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People were registered in 3 different database, each of them independent, each of them on a different software (one aspnet/vbnet you connected through a browser, one very, very old, clearly IBM software, and the third one was probably as old as IBM, if not older, but looked like a minitel portage on windows). All the relevant data were dispersed on those three (a fourth one existed but only authorised people could use it because you had bank account numbers on it). Also, only the Vbnet software allowed copy paste, which means that to find someone, you had to file the tax number+surname 3 time, without making any mistake.
I wonder which one was broken into. No bank details, so it probably was one I had access to as a temp. Maybe they upgraded their software though, because if I remember correctly only they all worked on the local network (not sure about the aspnet one).
Hacker claims exfiltrating data on 680,000 French taxpayers.
I think the title is OK but I'd probably have written e.g
"France's tax authority hacked, 680k taxpayers' data stolen"
I will never comply.
Is the people on France's tax authority that want you identify somewhere?
French government IT admins? Civil Servants?
I thought GDPR mandated disclosure of data breaches involving PII. Is France's tax authority somehow exempt?
edit to add: Article 33 particularly,
https://gdpr.eu/article-33-notification-of-a-personal-data-b...
The CEO will have to talk about it and manage the fallout. What else are you looking for.
Also, at this point we have no idea how they got in, until we know I think we should withhold judgement. Unless you consider yourself responsible if someone ever gets into a system you manage with a zero day.
Security is not an exact science, it's a trade-off between sensitivity of the data and the cost of protecting it whether you like it or not
This will be bigger than the Panama Papers!
why?
this particular leak is pretty mundane information for a relatively low number of people. its not even the biggest leak out of france this year.
1k lines are already shared, seems legit. Most of them is just <30k€ people. Only a handful of millionaires (8 >10M if I remember correctly), 0 billionaires. 2/3 people, 1/3 pro, there is no information about tax of professionals.
Seems to be an API endpoint about people who ask questions to the DGFiP.
France spends roughly 14% of its GDP on pensions for people that paid less than they now earning - literaly stealing money to young generations- , making pensions one of the country's largest public expenditures. The pension burden also appears inside the headline budgets of individual ministries: in 2026, about €25bn of the €90bn Education budget (~28%), €9.5bn of the €66.5bn Defence budget (~14%), €8.2bn of the €25.8bn Security/Police-Gendarmerie budget (~32%), and €2.4bn of the €13bn Justice budget (~18%) correspond to pension contributions.
So when France says it spends €90bn on schools, for example, only about €65bn is spending excluding the State pension contribution.
how is it related to obsolescence ? well if you are paid shit, have the highest tax in the world to make wealthy old people, why work hard? right now if you want to be working for the gov as an IT sec engineer you will earn less than an average civil servant working 35hours a week that just requires 0-2 year of post grade studies and you will be on a temp contract. there is literaly no decent engineer that will accept such a job. now scale that to many fields in france and see why this once great country is doomed
We should only allow vote for people that contribute to society or at least give them a stronger x2 x3 vote factor.
Same for retirement funds in france younger generations pay for the older ones but it appears that boomers did not make enough children for growth/equilibrium and are now earning more pensions than their children will. the logical thing to do is to decrease pensions for every boomer that has less than 2 children.
> ... boomers ... boomers ...
Ah, just bigotry. I see.