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celsoazevedo1 minute ago
This is more a decrapifier than an "anti-spy tool". Yes, it also lets you easily block things like microphone access and disable AI features, but it's not a firewall.

I started using it with Windows 10 because I could disable most of the crap Microsoft was using with a few clicks. When I reinstalled Windows 11, this was one of the first things I ran because of how much shit there's now (weather, news, recommended apps, ai, etc). I have almost everything disabled.

Sure, I could follow a guide, set up system policies and go to 20 different menus, and get the same result, but this does the same in 1 or 2 minutes.

Unfortunately, ShutUp10 has also suffered from some enshittification itself. Now there's a message tell you to buy the premium version, more branding, etc. I understand why, and considering it still does the job and it's still something you run without having to install, perhaps I shouldn't complain, but it used to be more "bare-bones"... something that I prefer on these tools.

TheAceOfHeartsabout 1 hour ago
When your OS is pure spyware, maybe it's time to look into switch to a less abusive option. The more people that switch, the stronger signal it sends.

This tool is equivalent to dating an alcoholic that beats you whenever they're drunk, so you keep trying to take away all the alcohol instead of dumping them and finding a new partner. The signs were always there and they just keep getting worse, it's time to move on.

embedding-shape3 minutes ago
Well, when this alcoholic is the only one that works properly for the sort of audio and 3D/VFX work, and a bunch of tools are only able to run (well) on Windows (Yes, I've tried WINE and everything else under the sun, for a decade), so dual booting is really the only option here, unless I wanna throw out a bunch of licenses I've paid thousands for and stop accepting that sort of work.

Ableton is probably the biggest reason I still have a Windows installation, and the one I try to get working (properly and well) with Wine/Proton maybe once a month or so. Cascadeur, Unreal Engine Editor, rekordbox are some of the other software I can't get to run well enough on Linux (yet) to fully migrate.

But, on the other hand, lots of other software I use professionally works amazingly on Linux, better than Windows in fact, like Houdini, Unreal Engine (the runtime, not the Editor), DaVinci Resolve and Blender.

I'm not worried though, eventually it'll be runnable on Linux no doubt, but personally we're not quite there yet, sadly.

LetMeLogin11 minutes ago
Not everybody has a possibility.

Each system has pros and cons.

I'm daily driving both Windows and Linux, and each has its own issues unfortunately, so using tools like OO is a necessity of making my(and others) life bit less miserable.

For Linux I have bunch of custom repair scripts because of certain bugs I encounter(which are tracked too but not solved).

Unfortunately this is the game no one will ever win, unless you will move, drop tech, and start breeding dogs, but then you need to sell them, and where would you advertise? :)

real0mar15 minutes ago
Too many games are Windows only
arcfour3 minutes ago
Very few are these days with the enormous amount of resources Valve has been pouring into Proton. The only truly Windows-only games I have encountered were online multiplayer with anticheat and that was almost always because the developer chose not to support Linux (e.g. EAC, Rust) and not for lack of support for Linux.

Perhaps that wouldn't happen if more people switched...

bigfishrunning13 minutes ago
This is why I own a playstation
technothrasher4 minutes ago
Because your PlayStation couldn't possibly be spying on you?
afpxabout 1 hour ago
No source code? No thanks but no thanks.

There also seems to be a lot of ‘privacy’ tools popping up on github lately. It’s a good time to be wary of any if you don’t trust the author 100%.

It’s like when HIV emerged in the 80s - the disco days of free love are over. Be wary of who you’re sleeping with, and always wear a condom.

mschuster912 minutes ago
O&O has been around for decades, they're among the OGs of third party functionality providers for Windows.
nerdsniper36 minutes ago
> There also seems to be a lot of ‘privacy’ tools popping up on github lately.

FWIW, O&O ShutUp10 dates back to 2015, with the launch of Windows 10. This isn't v10, it's "Shut Up, [Windows] 10!".

O&O Defrag has been a trusted tool since 1998.

That said, I largely agree with "No source code? No thanks." as I don't want to worry about a private equity group buying O&O Software and doing with it what they will.

flaburganabout 1 hour ago
I removed my dual boot in 2009, so the last windows I used on a personal computer was Vista. I switched my close family (parents and even my grand mother) to Linux years ago, nevertheless I still am the tech-savyy go-to person for other people and I am completely disconnected from what's going on the Windows world. Is an antivirus still needed there? Are there some good tools that should always be installed on a computer? The only thing I usually do is to put as many free software as I can (Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, VLC, Gimp...) But then what ?
collabsabout 1 hour ago
Yes, antivirus is still required but as long as you have decent common sense, the built in antivirus and antimalware on Windows (sometimes known as Windows Defender or Windows Security) is good enough for most users (the only use case where I can see commercial AV solution being of any use is for compliance checklists). Chocolatey, Winget, and Scoop are all good options for installing software.

Oh and you will love Powershell 7 on Windows Terminal. It is a delight and a breath of fresh air if you ask me.

segfaltnhabout 1 hour ago
My favorite anti-spyware tool for Windows is Linux.
VCFundedGenYer16 minutes ago
FYI this seems to be an AI slop copy of Win11Debloat which is the original (+has all the same options).

Support the original, not the copy: https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat

liljacob8 minutes ago
This was released half a decade before Windows 11 was even out.
swordd10 minutes ago
shutUp10 was originally released on September 28, 2015
uncognic9 minutes ago
Huh? OOSU10 is from 2015. If anything Win11Debloat is the copy
xyst14 minutes ago
An even better solution — don’t use windows.
nosioptar28 minutes ago
I can't read the page. There's a giant fucking sticky navigation panel that blocks over half the screen.
majorchordabout 1 hour ago
Ah yes, the closed-source proprietary black box antispy tool.
jjordan27 minutes ago
Closed source doesn't mean not trustworthy. O&O has been making tools like these for a long time.
Toynbeeidea17 minutes ago
>Closed source doesn't mean not trustworthy

Yes, it does.

>O&O has been making tools like these for a long time.

Microsoft has made Windows for a long time. Longer, even.

thenewnewguy33 minutes ago
If you care about software being closed source or proprietary you probably aren't running Windows.
DaSHacka26 minutes ago
Honestly, even as a Linux guy who doesn't use Windows (almost) at all anymore, I trust Microsoft to be generic and corporate in their spying.

They'll spy on users usage habits, and likely backdoor their OS for the feds, but they won't individually exfil your browser cookies and steal money from your bank account.

A random closed-source black-box "privacy" tool though? You have zero guarantees.

ryan_glassabout 1 hour ago
Any recommendations for a FOSS alternative?
popcar213 minutes ago
asklabout 1 hour ago
Linux is a great FOSS alternative.
voidfuncabout 1 hour ago
Right? Im not touching that thing with a 10ft pole.
speed_spread34 minutes ago
I get the sentiment. But for the record, O&O has been around for a long time, they were known for their excellent defragmentation tool, which isn't so much required nowadays. Their business model was never close to Adware (to my knowledge).

ShutUp has also been around for a while and always seemed to me like a O&O side project by someone who got really pissed at Windows taking the spyware tangent. The distribution model is still that of shareware / freeware (no source), because that's what O&O does. But as far as closed software goes, that's _probably_ as clean as it gets.

encom7 minutes ago
>defragmentation

Windows has had built in defrag since at least WinXP. I can't remember if Win2000 had it - I think it did. It runs in the background and you don't have to worry about it. 3rd party defrag tools are snake oil, like registry cleaners and so on.

ChoosesBarbecueabout 1 hour ago
Huge fan of this. I run it once on a fresh format, and then I never have to worry about Windows annoying me again.

(And no, I simply do not like Linux or even macOS enough to switch over, despite being perfectly competent. That, and I play video games that will never be compatible.)