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ksimukka4 minutes ago
If only I was in Helsinki. This would be an interesting time to work in this area.
herodoturtleabout 2 hours ago
Sincere congrats to the Verda team :-)

Can someone please help me understand what their competitive advantage is, versus the likes of AWS / Azure et al, who are also available in the EU.

I love a good underdog story, but I'm not understanding the economics of it.

_ink_about 2 hours ago
Cloud Act: The CLOUD Act (Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data Act) is a U.S. federal law passed in 2018 that allows U.S. law enforcement to compel U.S.-based tech and cloud companies to hand over customer data, even if that data is stored on servers located outside the United States
petcat36 minutes ago
The data sovereignty stuff is mostly just lip-service. Both the EU and Canada are in the process of negotiating reciprocal CLOUD Act arrangements with the US government similar to what UK and Australia already have in place.

> EU-US agreement [1]

> Negotiations with the United States to facilitate cross-border access to e-evidence for judicial cooperation in criminal matters started in September 2019 and are currently ongoing. At present, US-based service providers collaborate with European law enforcement authorities through direct cooperation on a voluntary basis or through mutual legal assistance (MLA) procedures.

[1] https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/e-evidence/

13324about 2 hours ago
There are several regulated industries that need to have their computing done in the EU without ties to US companies. Sovereignty is currently a big political topic.
victorbjorklund33 minutes ago
They ain’t Americans.
bergheimabout 2 hours ago
Them putting services in EU (even as subsidiaries) is just a marketing strategy where they are straight up lying to customers so they can get more money.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

nik736about 3 hours ago
Verda is great! The only thing bad about Verda is that it's sold out fairly often :-) So the $189M will hopefully help with that.
welhoilijaabout 1 hour ago
Gongratulations to the team! Their solutions not only allow the data to actually stay in the EU, but are otherwise competetive as well!
huksley37 minutes ago
Could you clarify what you mean? Cloud-related data stay in the EU, but yeah, marketing/payment stack are more diverse.

Disclaimer: I work at Verda.

paperboy10000about 3 hours ago
Excellent news for European tech stack - congrats!
petcatabout 3 hours ago
AI cloud? I guess 189 mil will buy nvidia GPUs to host inference for Chinese models for Europeans? Is that what this is?
impossibleforkabout 2 hours ago
That's a real risk.

Hopefully it's for buying VSORA or Euclyd machines, but well...

liftyabout 2 hours ago
Can you buy these already? I think not.
impossibleforkabout 2 hours ago
The VSORA machines, possibly. They are apparently delivered and being installed at Scaleway.

The Euclyd machines, probably many months away.

BiraIgnacioabout 2 hours ago
This is wonderful, congrats to everyone at Verda!
robotswantdataabout 2 hours ago
Very good dev experience! Congrats
htrpabout 3 hours ago
yet another ai cloud
dude250711about 3 hours ago
Yeah, but this time like... In EU!
mritsabout 3 hours ago
$198M for AI Cloud when US has a company that pays one of it's employees about that?
kryptisktabout 1 hour ago
That American AI companies waste money like that is a good argument for them being vulnerable to leaner companies.
hn45e7pbijabout 3 hours ago
Yeah the sold out bit is telling, and it's rarely the cards, it's finding racks with enough power and cooling ready to take them.
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