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dang•about 3 hours ago
Related ongoing thread:

Ask HN: How do you feel about the new $500 OpenAI subscription? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49838409 - Sept 2026 (8 comments)

darkamaul•about 16 hours ago
I wonder what's the ceiling for these plans' prices. At some point, it becomes a non-negligible fraction of the salary for the employee, especially in non-US employment markets.
brianwawok•about 3 hours ago
A lot depends on how good open source models do. I know I can buy a 20k rig or whatever to get model X. If someone wants to charge me 3k a month to write code I just buy the hardware.
add-sub-mul-div•about 2 hours ago
Once people become fully dependent the ceiling will be whatever they want it to be.
cyanydeez•about 3 hours ago
Its cute you tgink youll be the one leveraging AI.
aeonfox•about 3 hours ago
> tgink

A token misfired

cyanydeez•about 2 hours ago
Sorry, asked copilotto think forme.
ryandetzel•about 13 hours ago
If it's unlimited that would be tempting. But that will never happen and if it does "unlimited" would not be
sejje•about 10 hours ago
Particularly in this situation, it cannot be unlimited. A command to one agent could scale into a whole datacenter very quickly.

It can feel unlimited for many use cases, probably. But I doubt it can, let's say, 3D model things in blender on 3 different computers for 24/7. And hey, why not 30 things? 300? If you're just watching them, it's easy to get ridiculous.

Someone1234•about 10 hours ago
I understand your point; but I disagree - Unlimited is possible.

It gets into a "define unlimited" discussion. You could give "unlimited" usage, but still "limit" both concurrency and throttle speed. Even if you run 24/7, they still have knobs they can twist.

sejje•about 8 hours ago
Fair enough, but you're kind of changing the parameters.

The limiting thing now is total tokens, so unlimited would mean infinite tokens.

And it's not hard to spin up to infinite tokens, one agent and one command can orchestrate it.

fullstackwife•about 8 hours ago
Cloud agents in Codex are quite poor solution compared to Claude Code, you are forced to use your own computer, which is not the desired setup for anyone with a standard laptop not suitable for doing lots of work in parallel.

So I would still prefer to spend some dollars in Anthropic or even Cursor solutions, which work much better as cloud dev envs.

rearview•about 16 hours ago
to be honest wasn't much surprised cause of the current situation like frontier models being so expensive and the models like opus consuming way much more tokens you just can't justify any of that. this token math is just so damned right now :(
ls1911•about 16 hours ago
the bottom line is that a.i is getting more and more expensive and they have excuses for that. just last week trae.ai reduced its plan credits from 400$ to 100$
sejje•about 10 hours ago
Inference for the same level of intelligence is getting cheaper. Frontier intelligence keeps finding ways to get more expensive, yes.

But gpt-6-sol, for instance, dropped price for the same level of intelligence. That will keep happening, and someday we'll have basically-free sol. And hopefully by then, very cheap astra.

But some new wild thing will be very expensive.

I'm sure I'll figure out how to use the new one, but I would be extremely happy with near-free Astra.

zeroonetwothree•about 2 hours ago
Sol6 is clearly worse than 5.6. Have you tried using it? And Astra is more expensive.
deaux•39 minutes ago
Claude subs are great value again ever since Astra release moved lots of people to OpenAI subs. Even moreso since Opus 5.5 release.
drywater2•about 17 hours ago
I'm waiting for the ProMaxUltra+
cinntaile•about 12 hours ago
That's the next iPhone.
Jeremy1026•about 6 hours ago
Duo.
dudewhocodes•about 16 hours ago
We stole all your work, just subscribe to get it back... now at $500/month.
moomoo11•about 7 hours ago
tired take
thin_carapace•about 1 hour ago
I'd be tired too if my industry was being destroyed and scavenged by millionaires