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Lalabadie•about 2 hours ago
Am I just out of touch with our times if I think hand-wavey usage limits on a 500$ subscription is crazy?
rafram•about 2 hours ago
It filter to people/organizations who have a hand-wavey relationship with $500.
Xcelerate•about 1 hour ago
I use a small percentage of my Pro token quota to find better deals on hotels, rental cars, discount codes for large purchases, etc. Have it automatically scanning credit card points promos and flight deals via various APIs too. Easily pays for itself in that regard. Over $1k, I'm not sure it would break even anymore.
jkingsman•6 minutes ago
Can even have it look for (and enter) sweepstakes within your interests, autonomously, if you give it access to its own email that you don't mind getting blasted with spam.
datsci_est_2015•27 minutes ago
What’s a typical concrete outcome from this workflow? Is it saving you time, or money? Because if you buy the $2500 flight when a $2000 flight is available and you just have to scroll down the page, that’s not $500 that you’ve saved…

Reminds of the “girl math” meme that’s trending amongst millennials and younger: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/boy-math-girl-math

tevon•8 minutes ago
What APIs do you use for this?
deno•6 minutes ago
If it’s small percentage then you could spend just that few dollars in API costs or lower subscription and the rest is profit. So you're not saving anything, just reclassifying that opportunity cost to feel better about your subscription’s value. I know it's pedantic but it's useful to be aware of opportunity cost trying to trick us.
FrinkleFrankle•about 1 hour ago
Fuck, that's smart. Thank you for the idea.
sillyfluke•28 minutes ago
Well, that was fun while it lasted:)
dpweb•about 1 hour ago
Usage is sus but 500 minus tax write off to even a one person business that makes 100-500k yr. not crazy at all - kinda expected.

Worth it? Huge YMMV. I'd expect a $1000 sub next.

kgwgk•about 1 hour ago

  Cosmo Kramer: It's a write-off for them.
  Jerry:        How is it a write-off?
  Cosmo Kramer: They just write it off.
  Jerry:        Write it off what?
  Cosmo Kramer: Jerry, all these big companies, they write off everything.
  Jerry:        You don't even know what a write-off is. 
  Cosmo Kramer: Do you?
  Jerry:        No, I don't.
  Cosmo Kramer: But they do, and they're the ones writing it off.
Edit to be fair: the "500 minus tax write off" comment does make sense but often people overstates the benefits of writing things off.
Insanity•6 minutes ago
Lol, I could hear this vividly in Kramer's voice in my mind. Not everything in the show aged well, but it's still a fun watch.
sheepscreek•8 minutes ago
Hah we both thought of dialogue play - figured it would make for an interesting conversation.
sheepscreek•9 minutes ago
My take - the $500/month is likely similar to the $200/month plan (albeit with Astra Ultrafast that consumes tokens ultrafast).

Or maybe it gives you just a little bit more tokens than older $200/month plan for plausible deniability:

    Maybe me: “you’re charging $500/month for what was $200/month earlier”

    Maybe OAI: “no we’re not!! You get *more* tokens than the older $200/month plan and did you hear, you get Astra Ultrafast access!”

    Maybe me: “oh really? How many more tokens??”

    Maybe OAI: “I’m sorry we can no longer share that information, it’s confidential. National security and all…”
avgDev•42 minutes ago
I've talked to VP at my company and we both agreed $1000 for the time saved, is still 'worth it'.

Dev salaries are high and devs often have to realign buttons or change colors. We are not always working on complex ideas.

I rewrote a big piece of software from scratch....it had 0 docs. Documenting of classes and flow took me weeks. Complete rewrite took almost 2 years. I am confident that with AI I would be able to get this done in a few months.

bobocop•8 minutes ago
I bet it's worth it, for him.

Gets to put you under pressure to deliver more while paying you less. A few months you say, why not weeks? I'm sure the latest model can do it.

Also, forget about those "easy" ideas, if you are not on the verge of burnout every day you might as well not be working.

chaostheory•about 1 hour ago
You can also right off actual $6000 hardware
FrinkleFrankle•44 minutes ago
I'd rather use the fancy models while absurd valuations are subsidising them and then pick up a couple grand worth of their old hardware in a few years when they're eol.
vcf•about 1 hour ago
Not 100% in the first year (where I live). By the time it’s depreciated, it’s time to replace. Subscriptions are 100% deductible in the year you pay them.
boredatoms•about 2 hours ago
Im surprised some countries dont have consumer protection laws that would force them to be more explicit/accurate
jstummbillig•about 2 hours ago
How would that work? It's not simple to set a price, when you have a fixed asset. Seems more complicated to set price on a product (ChatGPT), where the product is just a shell for something else entirely (the model), that changes by the month.
MisterMunchkin•about 1 hour ago
Very easily, they do it for their API. You just set a limit in tokens.
schaefer•about 2 hours ago
but to do accurate billing, they would have to tell us when our usage triggers a guard rail and causes our query to be rerouted or denied.

And if they do that accurately, there's no stopping someone from mapping the guard rails.

Clearly that outcome is more uncomfortable than what we have now, which is enough people seem to be okay with vague billing.

ASalazarMX•about 1 hour ago
First, I wouldn't put it past OpenAI to charge even if your prompt triggered the guardrails, transferring responsibility is their style.

Second, how does vague billing prevent someone from mapping the "I'm sorry, I can't help you with that" style of responses to map the guardrails?

cousinbryce•about 2 hours ago
Move fast and bill things
RandomGerm4n•about 1 hour ago
or they could simply remove the annoying guardrails
rebolek•34 minutes ago
I think that 100$ subscription is expensive but I'm just European peasant developer, not SF area oligarch.
Razengan•about 1 hour ago
Maybe they're trying to milk as much as they can before open-weight models cause the prices to come crashing down?
a851c8a96264c•about 2 hours ago
Yes, you are. All of this was obvious from the start. The prices will go up way more soon (tm)
paul7986•about 1 hour ago
As a consumer paying $20 now to chatGPT where i hit those gauntlet usage messages then using Muse a lot and not receiving any such messages. Im questioning my $20 a month GPT subscription and my $5 a month Gemini (Google has enough money as Meta to make it free) subscription.

Overall Ai is doing all the software development now and we the consumers are paying for this while many are out of work and if you are out of work the US tech job market is brutal!

Ai needs to be free to use without limits and in time Im guessing it will be. That could be Meta and or another who accomplishes this. Whoever does wins this race.

abirch•28 minutes ago
If you don't pay for the product, you are the product. It's like gmail is free, but Google is harvesting all of my data to sell me ads. Meta is doing the same with Muse.
CSMastermind•about 2 hours ago
Yeah it's wild that they don't outright state the specific usage limits.

Just trust me bro accounting.

cyanydeez•about 2 hours ago
Remember when people talked abouthow these models are similar to gambling. Well, might be preetty much loot box logix crossed with DLC
bottlepalm•2 minutes ago
Reading the original post and replies on X is hilarious https://x.com/thsottiaux/status/2104823812042940713
x313•about 2 hours ago
Horrid value.

Previous $200 tier: 20x pro value

New $200 tier: 10x

New $500 tier: 25x, plus ultrafast mode but it drains 6x the cost (!!)

WinstonSmith84•about 2 hours ago
Where do you see that? I can't even see the $500 plan on their pricing page.
x313•about 1 hour ago
The $500 25x was mentioned by Altman on the livestream

The $200 cut to 10x was announced only formally on Twitter

However none of their product pages mention concrete #s, so I guess value will only degrade more over time.

WinstonSmith84•about 1 hour ago
Thanks...

It's strange if that ends up to be this way. It's hard to see why would anybody subscribe to the $200 - or even the $500 for the sole benefit of using ultrafast (depleted probably within hours).

minimaxir•about 2 hours ago
The pricing is on the linked page but does not appear to be selectable in ChatGPT UI yet.
johnsmith1840•42 minutes ago
What? So I have 2 200$ openai plans this is saying the 500$ is almost equivalent to a SINGLE 200$ plan?

Or it's saying it's always on fast mode therefore it's like running a 20x on fast all the time?

Super confused.

500$ is a old 200$ plan plus an option to drain it absurdly fast?

What is the value here of a 500$ plan I can't figure it out.

ModernMech•24 minutes ago
> 500$ is a old 200$ plan plus an option to drain it absurdly fast?

Yes.

> What is the value here of a 500$ plan I can't figure it out.

If you have unlimited money, it lets you give it to OpenAI to get faster results, presumably because you don't have unlimited time.

petesergeant•about 1 hour ago
Literally just downgraded to the $20 a month one, as they're not grandfathering in the old plans. I don't think this is going to work the way they thought.
chaostheory•about 1 hour ago
I’ll be doing the same as you 10/26 when our grandfather limits end, in addition to downgrading my Anthropic sub. I guess I’m shopping for hardware and open weight AIs now.
linuxftw•about 2 hours ago
The plan page just says "More usage" it doesn't say any 10x multiplier. Literally just says "More" than plus.
cyral•about 1 hour ago
Seriously, even the "Learn more about limits" link just takes you to the posted page where it literally says nothing about limits or usage. Not even x20 or x10 or whatever, just zero information on what "more usage" actually means. I don't understand why they can't provide how much token usage you get.
theturtletalks•about 1 hour ago
Yes they used to show an estimate of how many messages you can send in each tier and for each model.

But past few weeks, I don’t think it was accurate since my usage was going down faster. They nerfed the usage and now aren’t even giving estimates.

rfgplk•about 2 hours ago
I checked it's actually awful lol
minimaxir•about 2 hours ago
> New subscriptions that aren’t eligible for grandfathering include a lower usage allowance than previously offered with Pro 200 to reflect our increasingly efficient models.

actual lol

heywoods•about 2 hours ago
> New rider trips include a higher base fare than previously offered with Uber to reflect our increasingly efficient trip routing. - Travis K.

Enjoy the Lyft v Uber era while it lasts!

ModernMech•about 2 hours ago
lol yeah, I opened the Uber app the other day to $100 fares, remembered a time when I could get anywhere in SF at any time for like $5.
thallium205•about 2 hours ago
$5 flat group rides, $8 flat single rides anywhere in the city. The glory days.
wyre•about 1 hour ago
When I first learned about Uber ~14 years ago they were offering free rides in my city.
rtaylorgarlock•about 2 hours ago
Oh don't worry, you get to keep your higher usage allowance for one month. hahahaha
solfox•32 minutes ago
It's actually insane how often I switch between Anthropic and Codex subscriptions. The experience on these platforms is a bit like riding a roller coaster.
rafram•about 2 hours ago
I guess they got tired of people saying Codex plans were a better value than Claude Code.
cousinbryce•about 1 hour ago
Tired of their investors saying that
Galilyou•about 2 hours ago
they were! now they are not
ferrouswheel•about 1 hour ago
Conveniently Opus 5.5 is actually usable vs 5.

But I'm still for investing in local models.

InsideOutSanta•about 1 hour ago
Yeah, with Opus 5.5, my impression is that the OpenAI $200 plan was already worse than the Anthropic $200 plan. Sol 6.1 might have tilted the balance in OpenAI's favor again, but these changes more than negate that.

I'll cancel my OpenAI plan after this billing cycle. Let's see how this plays out.

bhelkey•about 2 hours ago
> See the pricing page for a comparison of the features and usage included in each plan.

Does anyone see the usage limits? I don't see anything indicating how much usage is in each tier.

I checked:

* https://chatgpt.com/pricing/

* https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-about-chatgpt-pr...

* https://chatgpt.com/#pricing (signed in plan upgrade page)

mstaoru•about 1 hour ago
These days it's all like "$200 plan has more usage than $100 plan" and "$500 plan has even more usage".
thimabi•about 1 hour ago
It’s about time for some laws against unpredictable pricing like that.
buckleyourshoe•about 2 hours ago
I wonder how this will go with the new releases like MiMo-v2.6-Pro or future GLM, DeepSeek, and Kimi releases around the corner. Once planned with Fable or Astra, the build process isn't much different with the open weight models from my usage.
paimapi•about 1 hour ago
you can pretty much run frontier-level models locally now with GLM 5.3 Flash and Qwen 3.8 Flash Next so this pricing feels very geared towards squeezing people who are still dependent on cloud subscription models only and don't know how to divert grunt work to cheaper models automatically with the 'smarter' frontier models acting as orchestrators and refinement

https://this.os.isfine.org/blog/posts/chinese-flash-models-a...

therepanic•about 2 hours ago
It's funny how, just before that, they tactfully cut the limits on the $200 subscription.
rfgplk•about 2 hours ago
Been doing it slowly for months week over week allowances have been getting cut by 5-10% consistently
tonyedgecombe•about 2 hours ago
What a strange idea to name your product after it's price.
rationalist•23 minutes ago
It makes it easier to change the plan features if the name is tied to the price and not the features.

So expect further downgrades in the plan features for the same price.

rpozarickij•about 1 hour ago
On the plus side, it'll be easier to compare these new plans than what we have with all the models.

It looks like they have literally chosen the most straightforward sounding plan names they could think of.

damsta•about 2 hours ago
People complained about burning their weekly usage in a day on Pro 200, so OpenAI's response to that is an even more expensive plan?
InsideOutSanta•21 minutes ago
...while halving the limits on the $200 plan.
chaostheory•about 1 hour ago
Way easier to do with Anthropic plans, but I guess subsidized AI is over? Didn’t think it was happening this soon.
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xaksnTMu2•about 2 hours ago
For a second I was worried I somehow missed 490 versions.
ferrouswheel•about 2 hours ago
Lowering usage limits, increasing price.

This is just the beginning. Migrate to open models ASAP.

kristofferR•15 minutes ago
Migrating takes minutes, no need to do the changeover to worse local models until the situation is truly dire.
5555watch•about 1 hour ago
My favorite comparison was that we're basically buying a GTX 1070 Ti every month, except instead of a GPU we get some extra productivity.
yzydserd•about 2 hours ago
Great naming scheme that doesn’t even survive exchange rates, or future price changes.
ModernMech•22 minutes ago
The idea is you'll always be paying that price, they'll just shrinkflate what you get and not tell you by how much. This has already been happening, now they're being a little more explicit about it.
TomGarden•about 2 hours ago
Venture capital doesn't want to pay for our tokens anymore, it seems
scottyah•about 1 hour ago
dangit, I've been loving the subsidies.
1970-01-01•about 2 hours ago
At this rate I expect end-to-end work getting done, no babysitting whatsoever. The agents should literally be calling me and talking about their problem if something needs my input.
fragmede•35 minutes ago
Notifications from both the ChatGPT and Claude app hit my phone when they finish a turn writing code.
AndrewKemendo•about 2 hours ago
We’re getting pretty close to that being the normal process at this point

I know people who have been at this as stage since around 4o with their own custom systems

jdkdkfkffk•about 1 hour ago
Me too, I'd say we are about two weeks away
kube-system•about 1 hour ago
To those balking at the price: this is just the beginning.

Subscription pricing will eventually compete with labor costs

glub•about 2 hours ago
This day may go down in history as one of the worst in OpenAI's history. It's so bad it's funny.

OpenAI announced they built clones of apps that already exist, codex for normal people, and 2.5x price increase for the product that is already getting decimated by competition.

What is happening at OpenAI?

I can't imagine OpenAI not backtracking this unless Anthropic does the price hike too.

samuelknight•17 minutes ago
It's not clear that they are hiking the price on Pro 200. Cache reads are down 75% from GPT 5.6 to GPT 6.1. So it looks like they are slashing the margin on their API and reducing the gap between subscription and API. 2x off API in exchange for committed spend is still a good deal for lots of people.
bhu8•about 1 hour ago
> I can't imagine OpenAI not backtracking this unless Anthropic does the price hike too.

Same here, but I’m worried it’s the latter. We’ll probably see an Anthropic price hike in a couple of weeks.

glub•about 1 hour ago
Interesting thing is that I would have expected Anthropic to do the price hike on the basis that their models are so much better right now. But it's more likely that OAI will have to backtrack regardless of what ANT does. Interesting times ahead.

If ANT does the price hike, OAI will be forced to backtrack because they're just not equal, OAI is behind. ANT would still be a much better value overall, and people will remember that it was OAI that made their ANT subscription more expensive. So the hiatus will happen. There's a lot of users that have $200 plans on both ANT and OAI. $500 leaves the slot for just 1 sub for them.

But I think the price hike is not going to happen. $500 is much, much harder to justify than $200 for the same usage. This is a horrible business decision, so Anthropic may just watch OAI bleed customers.

johnsmith1840•20 minutes ago
Yeah I think you're right I have around 500$ a mo budget for AI.

Had both a anthropic and openai then switched to 2 openai for astra. They want to capture the straddlers between both.

But this is a horrible decision. They could have eased customers into this instead of massive change. The are literally more than doubling the cost for no value add.

A smart company would have done this when they released astra or only allowed astra on 500$ plan. Or made it more sutble. I would likely have ate a 20% increase but this is over double.

skybrian•about 2 hours ago
The $20/month subscription is an excellent deal. I wonder what these whales are doing with all those tokens?

I mean, other than Yegge. He seems like a pretty extreme outlier?

iAMkenough•about 1 hour ago
Found a whale: "It took OpenAI's agents 130 billion tokens to crack a 90-year-old math problem" https://www.businessinsider.com/openai-math-problem-solved-t...
KronisLV•41 minutes ago
I had the 200 USD subscription for a bit, with the change to it I'm downgrading to 100 USD and might move back to Anthropic in entirety since they fixed the Opus 5 slop writing issue with Opus 5.5 (though their 200 USD plan is also a lie with bad marketing, around 1.7x weekly tokens). Or maybe just keep two 100 USD subscriptions and see how they compare.

It's crazy that people will have to pay 500 USD for only slightly more (and faster) usage of basically what I already enjoyed for the past few weeks. And even I got close to hitting weekly limits doing regular development across a bunch of codebases (admittedly it was on Astra High).

I feel like even the 500 USD subscriptions are not "get out of my face with those limits for all single developer use cases" (not even that many overnight tasks, I might have run a few here and there, and not even full 8 hours of work a day), but soon you'll have people needing multiple of those 500 USD subscriptions, unless they pull off crazy token efficiency gains for how the models work.

Guess the economics are catching up to AI companies, sucks that I don't have a bunch of money to burn every month.

Jayakumark•about 1 hour ago
Could hire real people in India for this cost - Fresh college under grads are paid like $250 per month or less for a month working 9hours x 5.5 to 6 days.

Edit: I meant its not worth it just for Dots Personal assistant ,also comparing to previous pricing of $200 - For $500 you got previously 5x more than previous $200 Pro pricing (which was 20x now is 10x). I can have real people who can drive or do physical deliveries etc, just on the delta.

avgDev•41 minutes ago
I would rather use a skilled dev + AI. As dev I am more likely to learn from AI, as it is better at explaining concepts than devs fresh out of school.
scottyah•about 1 hour ago
Hmm, a super-programmer familiar with almost every framework in existence that can ship entire new apps in a day and collaborate with you realtime, or paying to train someone in a different time zone for some likely subpar work?
kube-system•about 1 hour ago
But they're slower and don't work in my timezone. The value to something like this isn't the ability to do work, but the ability to quickly iterate.
squidbeak•about 1 hour ago
Could you hire hundreds of them over long running tasks for that fixed price to work every day and night for a month?
volkk•10 minutes ago
and they would be 50x worse
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isoprophlex•about 2 hours ago
> If your Pro 200 subscription was active at the eligibility cutoff or during the seven days before it, you’re eligible to keep your previous included usage allowance through Oct 29, 2026 while you have an active Pro 200 subscription.

> After that date, your subscription will move to the lower included usage allowance. Your subscription price stays at $200/month.

Imagine buying this shit for a year, upfront, and then having to deal with this. Nice.

DominikPeters•about 1 hour ago
You can't, Pro is only available with monthly payment.
linuxftw•about 1 hour ago
No actual mention of the actual 'cutoff date' anywhere to be seen. Was it today? Yesterday? 6 months ago?
Robdel12•about 2 hours ago
Yeah no. $200 was the top for me. Which doesn't super matter to me, I pretty much only use luna. I can't tell the difference between luna vs sol/astra other than those larger models do more ambitious things that I don't ask for.
LarsDu88•about 2 hours ago
Is this Astra running on Cerebras?
mixel•about 2 hours ago
No this is just the 500$ plan. They offer "ultrafast" now which is ~300tps which is 8x the speed for 6x the price.
LarsDu88•about 1 hour ago
I think 300 tps might be roughly what an astra sized model would be at if running on Cerebras hardware no?

Or are they simply lower the batch sizes on whatever hardware they are currently running?

mixel•about 1 hour ago
Yeah sorry I misunderstood you. And yeah I bet that it is the cerebras collaboration although they didn't explicitly say this, maybe their own chip is fast enough for this inference speed? But I could only take a guess if its this or that
sprice•about 1 hour ago
Almost certainly yes. The value prop here is the 8x speed. This is incredibly valuable to many many builders.
babelfish•about 1 hour ago
Yes that's their new ultrafast tier which is only available on this plan
derfurth•about 2 hours ago
Given that I burn through 2 x $200 subscriptions, I really hope Sol 6.1 is indeed as good as Astra ( ̄ー ̄;
Hawkenfall•about 2 hours ago
Why would I pay $500 now when the $200 features were just rug-pulled? I mean, Pro 1000 is on the horizon at this point, no?
sixdimensional•about 1 hour ago
Price escalation and reduction in features just leaves a horrible taste in my mouth as a consumer, and moreso, a human.

I want them to succeed as a business so I can use their products, but trust does erode over time. I wish they would realize this and value their customer more.

rfgplk•about 2 hours ago
Yea, the $500 package is likely a rebranded $200 from a few months ago. Keep in mind all providers have been cutting token allowances for their subs for a few months now
leftouterjoins•about 1 hour ago
DeepSeek 4.1 Flash is good enough for me thanks.
VCFundedGenYer•about 2 hours ago
Pure scam pricing.
jdw64•about 2 hours ago
Is AI development hitting its limits?

The performance changes between models are almost static. Recently, GPT has shifted almost entirely toward token efficiency.

Astra is good at making 3D assets, but realistically its coding was not as good as GPT 5.6 Sol.

Have we reached a point where getting better at one thing means starting to get worse at another?

This announcement is the worst one yet.

Nerfing existing usage A more expensive top-tier plan Showing off how slow Dots is right in the demo video And GPT Space—are they telling us to use it instead of Notion or what...

Overall, throughout the entire announcement, everything OpenAI wants me to look forward to just leaves me, as a developer, disappointed.

rfgplk•about 1 hour ago
Yep. It's hitting limits because models have effectively reached the logical endpoint of how "precise" their outputs can become. In order to overcome this they need to either a) get excellent at outputting and working with massive codebases (10+ million loc) since a singificant % of systems simply cannot be done in less than that (the language itself isn't expressive enough) or b) reach the next stage of intelligence where the models are somehow able to output sequences that can solve vast complex problems with a very narrow output. Option b isn't really possible (various statistical/computational fundamental limitations forbid it) and option A is _insanely_ expensive. Which is why all of the demos the frontier labs have been pushing out are either really impressive one shot demos where the model is able to take a concise input and produce something great on its own, or very long running internal sessions where they claim to do something vast with minimal oversight (NavierStokes, C compiler, Bun rewrite).
BenzeneDream•7 minutes ago
Totally disagree. Newer models are doing much more advanced things in domains like math, programming, and cybersecurity.

I don't see why a company charging more for less is a surprise or would lead to thinking that AI models have reached their limits. Thats an incredible claim and it would need incredible evidence. Astra is much more capable than Luna. Luna being 'good enough' for most of my daily work just shows how strong Luna is, not that Astra isn't much more capable.

As models get more and more capable, they will only appear to be at the extremes. You'll need to see them solving more Millenium problems to notice a difference as the tide is continuously raised for all models as well.

ChrisArchitect•about 2 hours ago
Related:

Tomorrow we are re-opening the Pro $200 subscription

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49889306

chaostheory•about 1 hour ago
At this price points (including the reduction of usage on the Pro 200 and Pro 100 subscriptions), more people will be looking buying their own hardware and running with open weight AIs. $6000 per year is the threshold
bottlepalm•1 minute ago
Local models don't hold a candle to SOTA models unfortunately.
scottyah•about 1 hour ago
It's a bit more complicated than that though. Dollars per token is not the right metric to track.
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rfgplk•about 2 hours ago
Decent(-ish), but doesn't provide good value for the money, sadly. They still refuse to tell you exactly how much usage you're paying for. My original suggestion a few months ago was to provide a $500/$1000 tier but make it _unlimited_, which this doesn't appear to be.
adamrezich•about 2 hours ago
Very cool how I'm supposed to feel good about paying $200/mo (a VERY expensive subscription!) for months, just to be told that in the near (but not immediate) future this subscription will lose half of its value and then I'll have to pay 2.5x as much to get 1.25x the value I used to get.

Fuck that shit!