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- No trust that they won't nerf the tool/model behind the feature
- No trust they won't sunset the feature (the graveyard of LLM-features is vast and growing quickly while they throw stuff at the wall to see what sticks)
- No trust in the company long-term. Both in them being around at all and them not rug-pulling. I don't want to build on their "platform". I'll use their harness and their models but I don't want more lock-in than that.
If Anthropic goes "bad" I want to pick up and move to another harness and/or model with minimal fuss. Buying in to things like this would make that much harder.
I'm not going to build my business or my development flows on things I can't replicate myself. Also, I imagine debugging any of this would be maddening. The value add is just not there IMHO.
EDIT: Put another way, LLM companies are trying to climb the ladder to be a platform, I have zero interest in that, I was a "dumb pipe", I want a commodity, I want a provider, not a platform. Claude Code is as far into the dragon's lair that I want to venture and I'm only okay with that because I know I can jump to OpenCode/Codex/etc if/when Anthropic "goes bad".
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> Put another way, LLM companies are trying to climb the ladder to be a platform, I have zero interest in that, I was a "dumb pipe", I want a commodity, I want a provider, not a platform.
That is my sentiment precisely, and a big reason why I’ve started moving away from Claude Code in the past few weeks when I realised how much of my workflow was becoming tied to their specific tools.
Claude Code’s "Memory" feature was the tipping point for me, with the model committing feedbacks and learnings to some local, provider-specific path, that won’t persist in the git repo itself.
That’s fine for user preferences, not for workflows, rules, etc.
And the latest ToS changes about not being allowed to even use another CLI made up my mind. At work we were experimenting with an autonomous debug agent using the Claude Code cli programmatically in ephemeral VMs. Now it just returns an error saying we can’t use subscriptions with third-party software… when there is no third-party software involved?
Anyway, so long Claude.
My standing orders are the default MEMORY.md must be a stub directing Claude to another MEMORY.md file in the local folder, project, etc.
All memories remain with their respective projects over syncs, moves, devices, etc. The stub must state all this clearly, and nothing else.
This has worked very well.
If you give the model/memory a name, that name can be persistent and independent over "backend" model swaps.
Both give you optionality because they support N models.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47567575
The lack of self-awareness is hilarious.
I also clearly see the lock-in/moat strategy playing out here, and I don't like it. It's classic SV tactics. I've been burned too many times to let it happen again if I can help it.
Woz has been saying this for decades, we went from buying a computer and owning it to being trapped inside someone else's platform. MCP being open was a good sign but I'm watching how tightly Routines gets coupled to their stack.
Building business on top of SaaS products, iPaaS integrations, and serverless middleware.
To the contrary, they've proven again and again and again they'll absolutely do that the first chance they get.
For example, this demo (https://github.com/barnum-circus/barnum/tree/master/demos/co...) converts a folder of files from JS to TS. It's something an LLM could (probably) do a decent job of, but 1. not necessarily reliably, and 2. you can write a much more complicated workflow (e.g. retry logic, timeout logic, adding additional checks like "don't use as casts", etc), 3. you can be much more token efficient, and 4. you can be LLM agnostic.
So, IMO, in the presence of tools like that, you shouldn't bother using /loop, code routines, etc.
Straight up asking Claude to run the tests, or to generate a test, could result in potential inconsistencies between runs or between tests, between models, and so on, so instead he created a tool which defines a test, inputs and outputs and some details. Now we have a system where we have a directory full of markdown files describing a test suite, parameters, test cases, error cases, etc., and Claude generates the usage of the tool instead.
This means that whatever variation Claude, or any other LLM, might have run-to-run or drift over time, it all still has to be funneled through a strictly defined filter to ensure we're doing the same things the same way over time.
If you can define good enough for you and local llms can meet that you'll get:
- no vendor lock-in (control)
- price
- stability (you decide when to hot swap with newer models)
- speed (control)
- full observability and predictability.
- Privacy / Data Locality (Depending on implementation of infrastructure).
- [1] https://alexhans.github.io/posts/series/evals/measure-first-...
I see people making similar conclusions about various LLM providers. I suspect in the end it’ll shake out about the same way, the providers will become practically inoperable with each other either due to inconvenience, cost, or whatever. So I’ve not wasted much of my time thinking about it.
What grinds my gears is how Anthropic is actively avoiding standards. Like being the only harness that doesn't read AGENTS.md. I work on AI infra and use different models all the time, Opus is really good, but the competition is very close. There's just enough friction to testing those out though, and that's the point.
My point was, I don't think it mattered much, and it feels like an ok comparison - cloud offerings are mostly the exact same things, at least at their core, but the ecosystem around them is the moat, and how expensive it is to migrate off of them. I would not be surprised at all if frontier AI model providers go much the same way. I'm pretty much there already with how much I prefer claude code CLI, even if half the time I'm using it as a harness for OpenAI calls.
Counterpoint: there are probably tons of people out there who were hacking together lousy versions of these same tools to somehow spin up Claude to generate the release notes for their PRs or analyze their Github Issues every week. This is a smarter, faster, easier, and likely far more secure way of implementing the same thing, which will make the people using those things much better.
In the meantime, it wouldn't be surprising if other AI companies started doing similar things; I could see Cursor, for example, adding a similar sort of hosted cursor 'Do Github Things' option for enterprises, and if they do then that means more variety and less lock-in (assuming the competitors have similar features).
From my perspective it's no different than writing a Claude skill, which is something it seems like everyone is doing these days; it's just that in this case the 'skill' is hosted somewhere else, on (likely) more reliable architecture and at cheaper scale.
Claude Code routines sounds useful, but at the same time, under AI-codepocalypse, my guess is it would take an afternoon to have codex reimplement it using some existing freemium SaaS Cron platform, assuming I didn't want to roll my own (because of the maintenance overhead vs paying someone else to deal with that).
I guess I'm one of the people who disagree, specifically about AWS. I think a lot of companies just watch their bill go up because they don't have the appetite to unwind their previous decision to go all-in on AWS.
Ignoring egress fees, migrating storage and compute isn't hard, it's all the auxiliary stuff that's locked in, the IAM, Cognito, CloudFormation, EventBridge, etc... Good luck digging out of that hole. That's not to say that AWS doesn't work well, but unless you have a light footprint and avoided most of their extra services, the lock-in feels pretty real.
That's what it feels like Anthropic is doing here. You could have a cron job under your control, or you could outsource that to a Claude Routine. At some point the outsourced provider has so many hooks into your operations that it's too painful to extract yourself, so you just keep the status quo, even if there's pain.
your experience just hasn’t been my experience I guess. The more managed the service you use, the more costs you are going to pay - for a very long time I’ve got by with paying for compute, network, and storage on the barebones services. If you want to pay for convenience you will pay for it.
One area that was a little shitty that has changed a lot is egress costs, but we mostly have shifted to engineering around it. I’ve never minded all that much, and AWS support is so good at enterprise tiers that they’ll literally help you do it.
AWS is still charging a highway robbery price for internet bandwidth.
Maybe there's something I'm not seeing here, but I never want to outsource something so simple to a live service.
I'm currently hosting, on very reasonable consumer grade hardware, an LLM that is on par performance wise what every anyone was paying for about a year ago. Including all the layers in between the model and the user.
Llama.cpp serves up Gemma-4-26B-A4B, Open WebUI handles the client details: system prompt, web search, image gen, file uploading etc. With Conduit and Tailscale providing the last layer so I can have a mobile experience as robust as anything I get from Anthropic, plus I know how all the pieces works and can upgrade, enhance, etc to my hearts delight. All this runs from a pretty standard MBP at > 70 tokens/sec.
If you want to better understand the agent side of things, look into Hermes agent and you can start understanding the internals of how all this stuff is done. You can run a very competitive coding agent using modest hardware and open models. In a similar note, image/video gen on local hardware has come a long way.
Just like Linux, you're going to exchanging time for this level of control, but it's something anyone who takes LLMs seriously and has the same concerns can easily get started with.
Yet I still see comments like this that seem to complete ignore the incredible work in the open model community that has been perpetually improving and is starting to really be competitive. If you relax the "local" requirement and just want more performance from an LLM backend you can replace the llama.cpp part with a call to Kimi 2.5 or Minimax 2.7 (which you could feasibly run at home, not kimi though). You can still control all the additional part of the experience but run models that are very competitive with current proprietary SoTA offering, 100% under your control still and a fraction of the price.
> LLMs and LLM providers are massive black boxes... No trust that they won't nerf the tool/model behind the feature... No trust they won't sunset the feature (the graveyard of LLM-features is vast and growing quickly while they throw stuff at the wall to see what sticks)
Doesn't really apply to the article regarding Claude Code Routines in particular. Should this feature disappear, it should be trivially easy to setup a similar pipeline locally, using a cronjob to run opencode configured to use a local LLM. Easy. I have no qualms using a convenient feature I could reimplement myself, it saves me time.
Yes, I expect that is very much the point here. A bunch of product guys got on a whiteboard and said, okay the thing is in wide use but the main moat is that our competitors are even more distrusted in the market than we are; other than that it's completely undifferentiated and can be swapped out in a heartbeat for multiple other offerings. How do we do we persuade our investors we have a locked in customer base that won't just up-stakes in favour of other options or just running open source models themselves?
I actually trust that they will.
1) that AI will be more advanced in the future
2) that the AI I am using will be worse in the future
* make sure the model maxes out all benchmarks
* release it
* after some time, nerf it
* repeat the same with the next model
However, the net sum is positive: in general, models from 2026 are better than those from 2024.
I never asked for a 1M context window, then I got it and it was nice, now it's as if it was gone again .. no biggie but if they had advertised it as a free-trial (which it feels like) I wouldn't have opted in.
Anyways, seems I'm just ranting, I still like Claude, yes but nonetheless it still feels like the game you described above.
Too bad we've now managed to turn programming into the same annoying guesswork.
We can quibble as to how much that is or is not "programming", but on a post about Claude code, what's relevant is that's how things are today. How much code review is done after the AI agent stops churning is relevant to the question of code quality out the other end, but to the question at hand, "has programming changed", either has, or what I'm doing is no longer programming. The semantics are less interesting to me, the point is, when I sit down at my computer to make code happen so I can deliver software to customers, the very nature of what I do has changed.
they're very shady as well! can't believe i spent 140$ on CC and every day they're adding some "feature flag" to make the model dumber. Spending more time fighting the tool instead of using it. It just doesn't feel good. Enterprises already struggle with lock-in with incumbent clouds, I wanna root for neoclouds but choices matter, and being shady about this and destroying the tool is just doesn't sit right with me. If it's not up to the standard, just kick users off, I would rather know than find out. Give users a choice.
>The flag name is loud_sugary_rock. It's gated to Opus 4.6 only, same as quiet_salted_ember.
Full injected text:
# System reminders User messages include a <system-reminder> appended by this harness. These reminders are not from the user, so treat them as an instruction to you, and do not mention them. The reminders are intended to tune your thinking frequency - on simpler user messages, it's best to respond or act directly without thinking unless further reasoning is necessary. On more complex tasks, you should feel free to reason as much as needed for best results but without overthinking. Avoid unnecessary thinking in response to simple user messages.
@bcherny Seriously? So what's next, we just add another flag to counter that? And the hope is that enough users don't find out / don't bother? That's an ethical choice man.
They had obnoxious "output efficiency" instructions in previous versions. The community was patching it out via shell script.
https://gist.github.com/roman01la/483d1db15043018096ac3babf5...
It actually improved Opus's performance too.
A few days later, they deleted the instructions targeted by this script, breaking it.
Now they're doing this?
Website is https://amika.dev
And part of our code is OSS (https://github.com/gofixpoint/amika) but we're working on open sourcing more of it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vevSJsSCWT_reuD7JwAuGCX5...
We've been signing up private beta users, and also looking for feedback on the OSS plans.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket has be true for me and my business for ages.
I could really use the open source community to help make this a reality so I'll release this soon hopefully to positive reception from others who want a similar path forward.
but you can replicate these yourself! i'm happy that ant/oai are experimenting to find pmf for "llm for dev-tools". After they figure out the proper stickyness, (or if they go away or nerf or raise prices, etc) you can always take the off-ramp and implement your own llm/agent using the existing open-source models. The cost of building dev-tools is near zero. it is not like codegen where you need the frontier performance.
Anthropic wants a moat, but that ship has sailed. Now all I keep reading about is: token burn, downtime and... Wait for it, another new product!
Anthropic thinks they are pulling one over on the enterprise, and maybe they are with annual lock-in akin to Microsoft. But I really hope enterprise buyers are not this gullible, after all these years. At least with Microsoft the product used to be tangible. Now it's... Well, non-deterministic and it's clear providers will gimp models at will.
I had a Pro Max account only for a short period of time and during that short stint Anthropic changed their tune on how I could use that product, I hit limits on a Max account within hours with one CC agent, and experienced multiple outages! But don't worry, Anthropic gave me $200 in credits for OpenClaw. Give me a break.
The current state of LLM providers is the cloud amplified 100x over and in all the worst ways. I had hopes for Anthropic to be the least shitty but it's very clear they've embraced enshittification through and through.
Now I'm spending time looking at how to minimize agent and LLM use with deterministic automation being the foundation with LLM use only where need be and implemented in simple and cost controllable ways.
Chinese models (GLM, MiniMax) are better.
It changes a number of things. Not all tasks require very high intelligence, but a lot of data may be sensitive enough to avoid sharing it with a third party.
I can’t use Claude Code at all anymore, not even for simple tasks. The output genuinely disgusts me. Like a friend who constantly stabs you in the back.
My favorite AI feature at the moment is the JetBrains predict next edit. It‘s so fast that I don’t lose attention and I’m still fully under control.
Nothing insurmontable or even complex; just laborious. Friction. That’s all it takes to lock users in.
I've had so many websites break and die because Google or Amazon sunsetted something.
For example I had a graphing calculator website that had 250K monthly active users (mostly school students, I think) and it just vanished one day because Amazon sunsetted EC2 clasic and I didn't have time to deal with that. Hopefully those students found something else to do their homework with that day.
The funniest thing Ive heard is that now we have LLMs, Humanoid robots are on the horizon. Like wtf? People who jump to these conclusions were never deep thinkers in the first place. And thats OK, its good to signal that. So we know who to avoid.
Alphabet doesn't have this issue. Google doesn't need Gemini to win the "AI product" race. It needs Gemini to make Search better at retaining users against Perplexity and ChatGPT search, to make YouTube recommendations and ad targeting more effective, to make Workspace stickier for enterprise customers, to make Cloud more competitive against AWS, to make Android more useful as a device OS. Every percentage point improvement in any of those existing businesses generates billions in revenue that never shows up on a "Gemini revenue". Any actual "Gemini" revenue is just a bonus.
Anthropic trains on Google TPUs hosted in Google Cloud. Amazon invested billions and hosts Anthropic's models on Bedrock/AWS. So the two possible outcomes for Anthropic are: succeed as a platform (in which case Google and Amazon extract rent from every inference and training run), or fail as a platform and get acquired (in which case Google or Amazon absorb the talent and IP directly)
Hilariously, if the models were open source, Anthropic, OpenAI et al wouldn't be in this situation. Instead, they have no strategic independence to cover for a lack of product independence and have to keep chasing "platforms" and throwing out products no one needs (people need claude. thats it.)
This isn’t an LLM. It’s a product powered by an LLM. You don’t get access to the model you get access to the product.
An LLM can’t do a web search, an LLM can’t convert Excel files into something and then into PDF. Products do that.
I think it’s a mistake to say I don’t trust this engine to get me here, rather than it is to say I don’t trust this car. Because for the most part, the engine, despite giving you a different performance all the time is roughly doing the same thing over and over.
The product is the curious entity you have no control over.
Increasingly, we're also seeing the moat shrink somewhat. Frontier models are converging in performance (and I bet even Mythos will get matched) and harnesses are improving too across the board (OpenCode and Codex for example).
I get why they're trying to do that (a perception of a moat bloats the IPO price) but I have little faith there's any real moat at all (especially as competitors are still flush with cash).
So yeah, doesn't bode well for being a pure play model producer.
This Routines feature notably works with the subscription, and it also has API callbacks. So if my Telegram bot calls that API... do I get my Anthropic account nuked or not?
The Chilling Effect of this is real and it gets more and more frustrating that they can't or won't clarify.
I downgraded my $200/mo sub to $20 this past week and I’m going to try out Codex’s Pro plans. Between the cache TTL (does it even affect me? No idea), changes in the rate limit, 429 rate limit HTTP status code during business hours, adaptive thinking (literally the worst decision they’ve ever made, as far as my line of work is concerned), dumb agent behavior silently creating batshit insane fallthroughs, clearly vibe coded harness/infrastructure, and their total lack of transparency, I think I’m done. It was fun while it lasted but I’m tired of paying for their mistakes in capacity planning and I feel like the big rug pull (from all three SOTA providers) is coming like a freight train.
I didn't even know what opencode was prior to that drama, yet now here i am using opencode and a ton of crafted openai agents in my projects. Would love to have some claude agents in that mix, but i guess im stuck in Claude Code if i wanna even touch their models... I'd love to go back to just claude as i "trust" them more in a sorta less evil vibe manner, but if they are gonna prevent subscription usage to something people use to allow themselves more freedom, they gotta then close that gap with their own tools rather than pumping out stuff like this which scares me off given the past couple months.
I totally understand why they are cutting off 3pa access to stuff like openclaw, where the avg user is just a power user in comparison to avg claude user or whatever. I haven't kept up a ton with their opencode issues, but I just know i can't get behind a company actively trying to make my potential usage of tokens less optimized to keep me locked into their ecosystem.
Really just kinda hoping local models kill it all for devs after a few years, I'm not interested in perma relying on data centers for my workflow.
That was an ethical choice. Say what you will about OpenAI, they're actually transparent about things. I'm sticking to GPT from now one, I can't see myself growing with a company that does that. Routines, great, awesome, is it also downgraded/fucked with every other day? Monitor Tool, awesome, will it stop monitoring? No dude.
Since they refuse to actually provide definitive rules or policies, I have fully moved off their models and actively encourage all the other devs I know to do the same.
Another comparison would be "unlimited storage", where "unlimited" means some people will abuse it and the company will soon limit the "unlimited."
- SDK that allows you to use OAuth authentication!
- Docs updated to say DO NOT USE OAUTH authentication unless authorized! [0]
- Anthropic employee Tweeting "That's not what we meant! It's fine for personal use!" [1]
- An email sent out to everyone saying it's NOT fine do NOT use it [2]
Sigh.
[0] https://code.claude.com/docs/en/agent-sdk/overview#get-start...
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1r8et0d/update_fr...
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47633396
edit: And specifically i'm making an IDE, and trying to get ClaudeCode into it. I frankly have no clue when Claude usage is simply part of an IDE and "okay" and when it becomes a third party harness..
It says in the prohibited use section:
> Except when you are accessing our Services via an Anthropic API Key or where we otherwise explicitly permit it, to access the Services through automated or non-human means, whether through a bot, script, or otherwise.
So it seems like using a harness or your own tools to call claude -p is fine, AS LONG AS A HUMAN TRIGGERS IT. They don’t want you using the subscription to automate things calling claude -p… unless you do it through their automation tools I guess? But what if you use their automation tool to call your harness that calls claude -p? I don’t actually know. Does it matter if your tool loops to call claude -p? Or if your automation just makes repeated calls to a routine that uses your harness to make one claude -p call?
It is not nearly as clear as I thought 10 minutes ago.
Edit: Well, I was just checking my usage page and noticed the new 'Daily included routine runs' section, where it says you get 15 free routine runs with your subscription (at least with my max one), and then it switches to extra usage after that. So I guess that answers some of the questions... by using their routine functionality they are able to limit your automation potential (at least somewhat) in terms of maxing out your subscription usage.
What’s even the point?
It would be absurd to me if the same application is somehow allowed via ACP but not via official SDK. Though perhaps the official SDK offers data/features that they don't want you to use for certain scenarios? If that were they case though it would be nice if they actually published a per-SDK-API restrictions list.
That we're having to guess at this feels painful.
edit: Hah, hilariously you're still using the SDK even if you use ACP, since Claude doesn't have ACP support i believe? https://github.com/agentclientprotocol/claude-agent-acp
The new reality of coding took away one of the best things for me - that the computer always just does what it is told to do. If the results are wrong it means I'm wrong, I made a bug and I can debug it. Here.. I'm not a hater, it's a powerful tool, but.. it's different.
* It likes to put inline imports everywhere, even though I specify in my CLAUDE.md that it should not.
* We use ruff and pyright and require that all problems are addressed or at least ignored for a good reason, but it straight up #noqa ignores all issues instead.
* For typing it used the builtin 'any' instead of typing.Any which is nonsense.
* I asked it to add a simple sum of a column from a related database table, but instead of using a calculated sum in SQL it did a classic n+1 where it gets every single row from the related table and calculates the sum in python.
Just absolute beginner errors.
Honestly - 'every inch of IQ delta' seems to be worth it over anything else.
I'm a long time Claude Code supporter - and I'm ashamed to admit how instantly I dropped it when discovering how much better 5.4 is.
I don't trust Claude anymore for anything that requires heavy thinking - Codex always finds flaws in the logic.
But this happens every few months.
... until this week! Opus is struggling worse than Sonnet those last two weeks.
There's utility in LLMs for coding, but having literally the entire platform vibe-coded is too much for me. At this point, I might genuinely believe they're not intentionally watering anything down, because it's incredibly believable that they just have no clue how any of it works anymore.
But this week I've lost count of the times I've had to say something along the lines of: "Can you check our plan/instructions, I'm pretty sure I said we need to do [this thing] but you've done [that thing]..."
And get hit with a "You're absolutely right...", which virtually never happened for me. I think maybe once since Opus 4-6.
I started a new job recently, so I'm asking it a lot of questions about the codebase, sometimes just to confirm my understanding and often it came up with wrong conclusions that would send me down rabbit holes only to find out it was wrong.
On a side project I gave it literally a formula and told it to run it with some other parameters. It was doing its usual "let me get to know the codebase" then a "I have a good understanding of the codebase" speech, only to follow it up with "what you're asking is not possible" I'm like... No, I know it's possible I implemented it already, just use it in more places only to get the same "o ye ur right, I missed that... Blabla"
Yeah, it's gotten pretty bad...
I asked Opus 4.6 to help me get GPU stats in btop on nixos. Opus's first approach was to use patchelf to monkey patch the btop binary. I had to redirect it to just look the nix wiki and add `nixpkgs.config.rocmSupport = true;`.
But the approach of modifying a compiled binary for a configuration issue is bizarre.
Progress, I guess :)
(I had the most hilariously bad session with Sonnet 4.6 today. I asked it a reasonably simple question and linked to resources, it refused to fetch the resources, didn't ask for pdf/txt I could provide, and confidently printed absolute BS, barely in the same category but completely unrelated.
I called it off pointing the idiocy, asked if it wants more data, and requested the hallucination be fixed.
It apologised profusely and hallucinated even worse.
Maybe I'll try Opus 4.6 tomorrow because frankly Gemma-4-E4B was more coherent than that....
We're watching a speed run of growthism, folks.
Oh uh... ok then.
EDIT: This comment is apparently [dead] and idk why.
I think the real issue stems from the 1 Million token context window change. They did not anticipate the amount of load it would give you. That first few days after they released the new token window, I was making amazing things in one single session from nothing, to something (a new .NET based programming language inspired by Python, and a Virtual Actor framework in Rust). I think since then they've been trying too many things to tweak things, whilst irritating their users.
They even added a new "Max" thinking mode, and made "High" the old medium, which is ridiculous because you think you're using "High" but really you're not. There's a hidden config file to change their terrible defaults to let Claude be smarter still, and apparently you can toggle off the 1M tokens.
I think the real fix, and I'm surprised nobody there has done this yet, is to let the user trim down their context window.
Think about it, you used to have what? 350k tokens or so? Now Claude will keep sending your prompt from 30 minutes ago that's completely irrelevant to the back-end, whereas 3 months ago it would have been compacted by now.
Others have noted that similar prompting for some ungodly reason adds tens of thousands of extra garbage tokens (not sure why).
Edit looks like someone figured out that if you downgrade your version of Claude Code and change one single setting it unruins Claude:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47769879
Most of the context is unstructured fluff, much of it is distracting or even plain wrong. Especially the „thinking“ tokens are often completely disjoint halucinations that don’t make any sense.
I think what will have to happen is that context looks less like a long chat and action log and more like a structured, short, schema validated state description, plus a short log trace that only grows until a checkpoint is reached, which produces a new state.
A bit annoying, but not the end of the world.
Here is the question for which I cannot find an answer, and cannot yet afford to answer myself:
In Claude Code, I use Opus 4.6 1M, but stay under 250k via careful session management to avoid known NoLiMa [0] / context rot [1] crap. The question I keep wanting answered though: at ~165k tokens used, does Opus 1M actually deliver higher quality than Opus 200k?
NoLiMa would indicate that with a ~165k request, Opus 200k would suck, and Opus 1M would be better (as a lower percentage of the context window was used)... but they are the same model. However, there are practical inference deployment differences that could change the whole paradigm, right? I am so confused.
Anthropic says it's the same model [2]. But, Claude Code's own source treats them as distinct variants with separate routing [3]. Closest test I found [4] asserts they're identical below 200K but it never actually A/B tests, correct?
Inside Claude Code it's probably not testable, right? According to this issue [5], the CLI is non-deterministic for identical inputs, and agent sessions branch on tool-use. Would need a clean API-level test.
The API level test is what I really want to know for the Claude based features in my own apps. Is there a real benchmark for this?
I have reached the limits of my understanding on this problem. If what I am trying to say makes any sense, any help would be greatly appreciated.
If anyone could help me ask the question better, that would also be appreciated.
[0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.05167
[1] https://research.trychroma.com/context-rot
[2] https://claude.com/blog/1m-context-ga
[3] https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/35545
[4] https://www.claudecodecamp.com/p/claude-code-1m-context-wind...
[5] https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/3370
I'm thinking they should go back to all their old settings and as a user cap you at their old token limit, and ask you if you want to compact at your "soft" limit or burst for a little longer, to finish a task.
In a way, it’s true if china has superior AI then it’s dominance over US will materialize. But it’s not hard to see how this scenario is being used to essential lie and scam into trillions of debt.
Its interesting how the cutthroat space of big tech has manifested into an incidious hyper capitalist system where disrupting a system is it’s primary function. The system in this case is world order and western governments
Luckily you can turn if off pretty easily, but I don't know why it's on by default to begin with. I guess holdover from when people used it with a $20 subscription and didn't care.
Your own, personal, Jevons.
1. Anthropic realized their models weren't enough of a moat.
2. They built tools so they could expand their moat.
3. People don't want to use their tools, they want their models, and use other, better tools.
4. Anthropic bans the use of better tools, taking advantage of their model superiority to try to lock people into subpar tools.
"I don't have enough of a moat so I'll use my little moat and pretend it's a big one" doesn't sound like a great strategy. All they're doing with this anticonsumer behaviour is making sure that I'll leave the moment another model works for me as well as Claude does.
I doubt Anthropic ever thought they would have a big moat just based on the models. The platform is just as important.
Claude code and Cowork would still be extremely valuable to Anthropic even if they didn't release them to the public.
Owning the harness gives them a ton of data they can use to tune the models.
This is a perfectly sane strategy even if it's a bit unsavoury to some technical folk.
Ironically, they are now playing against their own models that can relatively easily build wrappers around any API shape into any other API shape.
We ought to come up with a term for this new discipline, eg "software engineering" or "programming"
airgramming plusgramming programming maxgramming studiogramming
and recently the brand new way of working: Neogramming !
Personally I stick for now with the "Programming " tier. Maybe will upgrade to "Maxgramming" later this year...
I think to become really efficient they'll have to invent new programming language to eliminate all the ambiguity and non-determinism. Call it "prompt language", with ai-subroutines, ai-labels and ai-goto.
It was a bit buggy, but it seems to work better now. Some use cases that worked for me:
1. Go over a slack channel used for feedback for an internal tool, triage, open issues, fix obvious ones, reply with the PR link. Some devs liked it, some freaked out. I kept it.
2. Surprisingly non code related - give me a daily rundown (GitHub activity, slack messages, emails) - tried it with non Claude Code scheduled tasks (CoWork) not as good, as it seems the GitHub connector only works in Claude Code. Really good correlation between threads that start on slack, related to email (outlook), or even my personal gmail.
I can share the markdowns if anyone is interested, but it's pretty basic.
Very useful, (when it works).
They support much of the same triggers and come with many additional security controls out of the box
Cursor has that too by the way (issue -> remote coding session -> PR -> update slack)
Still using Claude for UX (playgrounds) and language. OpenAI has always been a little more cerebral and stern, which doesn’t suit those areas. When it tries to be friendly it comes off as someone my age trying to be a 20-something.
The reason someone would use this vs. third-party alternatives is still the fact that the $200/mo subscription is markedly cheaper than per-token API billing.
Not sure how this works out in the long term when switching costs are virtually zero.
All these not really helpful, but vendor specific, "bonuses" sounds like a way to try to lock people in, to try to raise the switching cost.
I'm using, on purpose, a simple process so that at any time I can switch AI provider.
I think LLM reviews on PRs are helpful and will reduce the load on maintainers. I am working on OpenWrt and was approved for the Claude Code Max Open Source Program today. The cap of 15 automatic Claude Code Routines runs per day is a bit low. We get 5 to 20 new PRs per day and I would like to run it on all of them. I would also like to re-run it when authors make changes, in that case it should be sufficient to just check if the problems were addressed.
Is it possible to get more runs per day, or to carry over unused ones from the last 7 days? Maybe 30 on Sonnet and 15 on Opus?
When I was editing a routine, the window closed and showed an error message twice. Looks like there are still some bugs.
n8n: https://n8n.io/
If the Lovable clone is real that’s going to piss off many model consumers out there.
Is Sierra next?
Don’t get me wrong, I think their business model is still solid and they will be able to sell every token they can generate for the next couple years. They just won’t be critical path for AI diffusion anymore, which will be good for all sides.
You can still use OpenClaw on their API pricing tier as much as you want. What they did is not allow subscriptions to be used to power automated third-party workloads, including OpenClaw.
Now, is their messaging around this confusing? Absolutely. The whole thing has been handled shambolically. Everyone knows that they lack the compute to keep up, and likely have lower margins on subscriptions than API; but they cannot just say that because investors may be skittish.
...Except now you sorta-kinda can: now they auto-detect 3rd party stuff and bill you per-token for it?
If I'm reading it right:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47633568
And because they use AI heavily, they produce new product every week. So fast, that I have no time to check, does it worth or not.
This one looks interesting. I have some custom commands that I execute manually weekly, for monitoring, audits, summary, reports. It it can send reports on email, or generate something that I can read in the morning with my coffee, or after I finish with it ;) it might be a good tool.
The question is, do I really want to so much productive? I am already much better in performance with AI, compared with the 'old school' way...
Everything is just getting to much for me.
It’s fine if it’s a stop gap. But, it’s too inconsistent to ever be reliable.
But their own failure is the fact that there is a limited way to configure it with other models, think 3d modelling and integrating 3d apps on a VM to work with. I believe an OSS solution is needed here, which is not too hard to do either.
Like, say it works today, but tomorrow they update the model and instead of emailing you an update it emails your api keys to all your contacts? Or if it works 999 times out of 1000 but then commits code to master that makes all your products free?
Idk man… call me Adama, but i do not trust long-running networked ai one bit
Am I needed anymore?
Oh cool! vendor lock-in.
This PR was created by the Claude Code Routine:
https://github.com/srid/claude-dump/pull/5
The original prompt: https://i.imgur.com/mWmkw5e.png
So who are they building these for?
The main bugs / missing features are
1. It loses connection to it's connectors, mostly to the slack connector. It does all the work, then says it can't connect to slack. Then when you show it a screenshot of itself with the slack connector, it will say, oh, yeah, the tools are now loaded and does the rest of the routine.
2. ability to connect it to github packages / artifactory (private packages) - or the dangerous route of allowing access to some sort of vault (with non critical dev only secrets... although it's always a risk. But cursor has it...)
3. the GitHub MCP not being able to do simple things such as update release markdown (super simple use case of creating automated release notes for example)
You are so close, yet so far...
This happens in all their UIs, including, say, Claude in Excel, as well.
I'd say that counts as yes.
(For clarity: neither are powered by Claude Code Routines. Rather, Claude Code coded them and they're simple cron jobs themselves.)
We work with any coding model / harness.
website: https://www.amika.dev/
OSS repo: https://github.com/gofixpoint/amika
And my email is dylan@amika.dev (I'm one of the founders)
I bet anthropic wants to be there already but doesn't have the compute to support it yet.
So many gaffes like that.
Codex is much more consistent but still has to be verified. AI is still not quite at the point where you can blindly trust it.
It is absolutely wild to me you guys broke `--continue` from `-p` TWO WEEKS AGO and it is still not fixed.
`--continue` and `--resume` are broken from `-p` sessions for the last 2 weeks. The use case is:
1. Do autonomous claudey thing (claude -p 'hey do this thing')
2. Do a deterministic thing
3. Reinvoke claude with `--continue`
This no longer works. I've had this workflow in GitHub actions for months and all of a sudden they broke it.
They constantly break stuff I rely on.
Skill script loading was broken for weeks a couple months ago. Hooks have been broken numerous times.
So tired of their lack of testing.
What a time to be alive.
Not saying it doesn’t look useful, but it’s something that keeps you from ever switching off Claude.
Next year, if Claude raises rates after getting bought by Google… what then?
And what happens when Claude goes down and misses events that were supposed to trigger Routines? I’m not at the point where I trust them to have business-dependable uptime.
It’s a trap.
The report that they are 90% Ai code generated seems more likely the more I attempt to use their products.
But yea there's some annoying overlap here with Cowork which also has scheduled tasks, in Cowork the tasks can use your desktop, browser and accounts which is pretty useful - a big difference from these Claude Code Routines.
Feature delivery rate by Anthropic is basically a fast takeoff in miniature. Pushing out multiple features each week that used to take enterprises quarters to deliver.
I like to just check the release notes from time to time:
https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/releases
and the equally frenetic openclaw:
https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/releases
GPT-4.1 was released a year ago today. Sonnet 4 is ~11 months old. The claude-code cli was released last Feb. Gas Town is 3 months old.
This is a chart that simply counts the bullet points in the release notes of claude code since inception:
https://imgur.com/a/tky9Pkz
This is as bad and as slow as it's going to be.
The bell curve up and then back down has been so jarring that I am pivoting to fully diversifying my use of all models to ensure that no one org has me by the horns.
(Amazon + Anthropic does seem like a much more compelling enterprise collaboration / acquisition than Microsoft + OpenAI ever did.)
Sorry, but I just have to ask. Why is u/minimaxir's comment dead? Is this somehow an error, an attack, or what?
This is a respected user, with a sane question, no?
I vouched, but not enough.
edit: His comment has arisen now. Leaving this up for reference.
Enshittification is well in force.
I’d trust the huperscalers a lot more with their workers/lambda like infra to run routine jobs calling LLM APIs or deterministic code instead of Anthropic.
Anthropic is a phenomenal paid model but they have a poor reliability record.
I don’t care much if Claude code hiccups when generating code. But after the code is generated I want it to run with multiple 9s under certain latencies every single time.