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visiohex•about 2 hours ago
Kdenlive hits the perfect sweet spot for me. It's much more capable than basic editors like iMovie, but doesn't have the overwhelming learning curve (or steep hardware requirements) of DaVinci Resolve. Like others have mentioned, pairing it with OBS for screen recording and Audacity for audio makes for an incredibly powerful, 100% FOSS media creation stack. It's amazing to see how far open-source video editing has come.
freedomben•about 2 hours ago
Same. They really thread that needle well IMHO. I choose to use Kdenlive over paid options, not because I have to, but because I want to. It's quality software, and it being free (in both aspects) is a dream come true.
BodyCulture•about 2 hours ago
Be careful with any serious project, this software most certainly will crash and destroy your work. It crashes since many years and developers do not seem to care or are not able to understand how important stability for media creation software really is. Especially small and independent artists should absolutely avoid any software that introduces additional risk of project failure as one such crash scenario at an advanced project state has a high potential of total destruction.

Choose wisely! Resolve is available for very little money and not only a much safer choice, but you will also learn to use an industry standard tool and might be able to monetise that skill one day.

Kdenlive is a hobbiest project and is probably still ok for occasionally splitting a downloaded YouTube video or converting your OBS recordings, but never should you remotely think about using it for a project where you need to rely on your tools.

The developers are not warning you enough, instead still trying to market this software as kind of a serious competitor to pro software, so I do that as a service for the aspiring video editor, taking your downvotes proudly as the price honest people have to pay.

Yes, obviously I write from experience.

rpdillon•about 1 hour ago
Arguments like this are much more compelling if you cite specifics rather than giving us your own conclusions.
sheiyei•about 1 hour ago
Based on your comment I guess you have never used Premiere Pro (and never learned ctrl + s)
squigz•about 1 hour ago
This argument would be a lot more convincing if you linked to issues or something.
SamPatt•about 1 hour ago
I can second the sentiment, I have had kdenlive crash on me several times without saving.

I still use it because it's great for quick and simple things, and I save frequently, but it is extremely frustrating when it happens.

nathanmills•about 2 hours ago
Or with Tenacity insead of Audacity for the 100% invasive free software setup!
yesimahuman•29 minutes ago
Kdenlive is amazing. As someone that learned basic video editing through cracked versions of Premiere growing up, I love that a completely free tool can do everything I need for editing without the nonsense of basic editors or tools like Clipchamp that lock ffmpeg flags like 4k rendering behind paid gates. My only issue with the tool right now is crashing and corrupted backups which happened a few times on the video I edited a few weeks ago.
marginalia_nu•about 2 hours ago
Kdenlive has some unfortunate performance regression when working with larger projects with many clips.

I managed to track down a few of them while evaluating Claude Code a while back (mostly certain actions doing O(n) scans over all clips every mouse event needing debouncing), and got it mostly back down to tolerable levels again, but have been holding onto them because unsolicited drive by AI PRs are very annoying from a code project maintenance perspective, as the changes are almost certainly poorly factored.

Was half considering creating a Kdenvibe fork, but that would also be in bad taste. So right now I don't know what to do with the diff.

throwaway89201•about 1 hour ago
Creating the PR, doing the explanation you just did, and closing it yourself might be a good option. Then at least your code lives somewhere that someone else can reuse if desired. Ideally combined with a linked issue that you do keep open.
ahartmetz•about 1 hour ago
You can write a bug report for each problem and attach a patch with the corresponding hack. Best thing you can do short of providing clean fixes.
Daunk•40 minutes ago
Every KDE app I try (and the Plasma desktop) seems so good on paper, and they promise me the world! Then, wen I actually try them out, they always end up crashing or doing something weird. Like I cannot stand GIMP, so I've tried using Krita, but I don't think I've ever managed to finish something in it before it crashes. It's the same with Kdenlive.

Damn shame.

simonask•36 minutes ago
I don’t use any KDE apps, but the Plasma desktop has been absolutely rock solid and super performant for me.

I do think that the idea that each toolkit has its own native app for each thing you might want to do with a computer is a recipe for a forest of half-maintained nearly-good apps. A lot of the KDE and GNOME app suites feel like checking boxes.

popcar2•about 3 hours ago
Glad this project is still going, but have they ever fixed its stability and being able to change the framerate without breaking the whole project? Last I tried, trying to export the video with a different fps just broke all the keyframe timings...
Doohickey-d•about 2 hours ago
Changing project framerate is apparently quite a hard problem, even DaVinci Resolve when you change it, warns you that you cannot change it for that project again.

Probably internally everything in a project is referenced to specific frame numbers, which would break if you changed the project framerate.

aleda145•about 3 hours ago
I recently switched from Shotcut to Kdenlive. Kdenlive's UX is much more intuitive. Lots of features, I still feel like a beginner, which is such a fun feeling!

I'm using it together with OBS to post short demo videos of my side project. I could use Loom I guess, but I prefer to keep my tech stack FOSS when I can.

Creating "non standard" video resolutions is a bit of a pain though. But I've solved that with an ffmpeg oneliner.

throwaway2046•about 1 hour ago
That's quite the impressive feature set. I do want to use Kdenlive but coming from Shotcut I didn't find the UI as easy to use, especially when it comes to handling the timeline... Maybe I'll try it again one day.
dadoomer•about 3 hours ago
I've used Kdenlive for years. I'm someone who only needs video editing every once in a while, but even then I definitely recommend learning it.
pjmlp•about 1 hour ago
Projects like this is why making languages like C++ safer is also relevant, we're not rewriting the world.

Kudos for keeping improving Kdelive.

embedding-shape•about 3 hours ago
Interesting that they went to visit the Blender offices, considering Blender still has it's own video editor (that seems to be ramping up on receiving improvements as of late too) which is basically a "competitor" (as far as FOSS has competitors) to Kdenlive.

I'd love to know more what actually went down there, is there plans about sharing of code or something similar, considering the two applications serve similar use cases when it comes to video editing?

prmoustache•about 3 hours ago
Open source projects do not necessary see alternatives as "competitors" if they don't market/sell their software.
embedding-shape•about 3 hours ago
Great work responding to the only point I tried to make as weak as possible, and even provided an explanation for why it isn't "correct" in the first place...
nathanmills•about 2 hours ago
Calling FOSS devs "competitors" is such a corporate-minded statement that completely misses the point. FOSS devs all work together to achieve a common goal and don't see other projects as competitors, they see them as friends.
TehCorwiz•about 3 hours ago
Blender is a wild untamed beast of a thousand panels. Those who wrangle the beast are wise and powerful. But they became that was from the journey. Kdenlive is a much more approachable quest for someone who is just entering the dungeon.
annnoo•about 2 hours ago
Holy! When I moved over to Linux (2018ish) video and photo editing was still the thing, where I was still moving back to Windows or macOS But apparently I should really take another look at Kdenlive, looks like a lot of things have improved heavily, that it could hit the sweet spot between my love hate relationship with Resolve and the ease of use of Sony Vegas back in the day. Thanks for posting !
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longitudinal93•about 3 hours ago
After trying all the alternatives I can say that Kdenlive has become my goto for video editing. It's so great to see the team adding amazing new features and optimizing sub-systems. Well done.
vladde•about 2 hours ago
has someone here moved from DaVinci Resolve to Kdenlive? how was that experience?

i just was a bit shocked to find out Resolve didn't support h.264 on their free tier on Linux, and i don't want to re-encode all my footage to AV1

ekianjo•about 2 hours ago
Good progress but kdenlive still cannot handle HDR videos
f_r_d•about 2 hours ago
It is in the roadmap ;)
magic_hamster•about 2 hours ago
It will be a beautiful day when I can finally lose all my Adobe accounts and software. Kdenlive is definitely on the right track BUT having a real risk to lose my project after days and weeks of work is not something I am able to afford. I am following this with great interest and waiting for the right time to jump on board.
echelon•about 3 hours ago
Is Kdenlive owned/part of KDE?

What's the story with KDE?

How is KDE doing with respect to QT, given that QT is commercial (with LGPL licensing) and has passed through several ownership changes?

Is QT actively being maintained, and is KDE able to incorporate (or better - steer) those changes?

How are they doing with respect to the GTK/Gnome folks? (Did Gnome ever get over their issues? I tuned out around the time of Gnome 3 and the headaches everyone was having with Ubuntu vs. Gnome with respect to the desktop compositor.)

Should I choose Gnome or KDE for a desktop environment? (This is not a moral question! No religious fights. I'm seriously curious.)

Which distro(s) have the best KDE? I've been stuck on Mac for a bit and want to dive in again soon.

lunar_rover•about 2 hours ago
> How is KDE doing with respect to QT, given that QT is commercial (with LGPL licensing) and has passed through several ownership changes?

KDE has the right to distribute Qt under a BSD-like licence after legal dispute.

> Is QT actively being maintained, and is KDE able to incorporate (or better - steer) those changes?

It is. KDE 6 is based on Qt 6.

> How are they doing with respect to the GTK/Gnome folks? (Did Gnome ever get over their issues? I tuned out around the time of Gnome 3 and the headaches everyone was having with Ubuntu vs. Gnome with respect to the desktop compositor.)

GNOME is still very stubborn but many of their works have come to fruition. KDE has adopted Flatpak and immutable OS.

> Should I choose Gnome or KDE for a desktop environment? (This is not a moral question! No religious fights. I'm seriously curious.)

Depends on your taste really. There are multiple rant articles about GNOME and I can write a fairly similar one about KDE. GNOME is the more polished out of the two, KDE has more features and has a less experimental workflow. Personally I also recommend trying out Pantheon, the DE of elementary OS.

Neither can reach the height of Windows and Mac OS X's prime since many UX issues are deeply ingrained, like FHS and XDG. You'll probably miss macOS application bundles.

> Which distro(s) have the best KDE? I've been stuck on Mac for a bit and want to dive in again soon.

Personally I like Fedora.

Pay08•about 2 hours ago
Kdenlive is part of KDE, yes.

I don't know what you mean by "story", but KDE is a collection of software more or less (emphasis on the less, at least compared to Gnome) interlinked with each other.

Qt specifically has the LGPL as a non-commercial license for open-source projects. This is part of a deal they made with KDE when it changed hands a while back.

Qt is being actively developed, but I don't believe KDE has any influence on it. They updated the entirety of their stack to Qt6 a year ago, they can definitely incorporate the changes.

KDE and GNOME generally don't care about each other. As for my personal opinion, Gnome's problems have only gotten worse in my experience, but perhaps in ways that don't matter to the average user.

Gnome if you like a MacOS-style UI, KDE Plasma if you prefer the Windows-style.

Generally, any distro will do. Rolling-release ones, or stable ones with a shorter update cycle (like Fedora) will get new features faster, but even Debian has KDE Plasma 6 nowadays.

kombine•about 1 hour ago
I unfortunately have to use GNOME on my work laptop with Ubuntu 24.04 and it is honestly a pain compared to my personal computers running Plasma. The comparison is not entirely fair because I am pitching GNOME from 2024 to the latest version of Plasma, but the difference in UX is night and day. UI is smoother and more fluid, I can configure my system exactly how I want it to be.
f_r_d•about 2 hours ago
KDE is a community (this year it turns 30!) and Kdenlive is part of it. Visit the website and read more about it.

Regarding you Qt question, there is the KDE Free Qt Foundation, more info: https://kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation/

I cannot tell you which DE to choose, I guess try them both and use what you like.

KDE distros that work well, try Arch (and derivatives like CachyOS), Fedora and there is also KDE Linux (but that is still alpha)

freedomben•about 2 hours ago
> *Should I choose Gnome or KDE for a desktop environment?

I suggest people try Gnome first and see how it meshes with you. Learn a few common keyboard shortcuts, especially Super Key, Super + (type to search), Alt+tab, etc.

If you know you're a customizer/tinkerer then maybe start with KDE. The knobs can be overwhelming though for people who want a more "just works" kind of experience.

Regardless, Fedora is IMHO the best experience (for a usable general purpose system) for both, so that's a great place to start.

opan•about 2 hours ago
Personally I use Sway. I wouldn't recommend GNOME. KDE seems okay from what I've used of it on SteamOS, and I have a few friends who seem to like KDE as well.

For a distro, maybe Arch or Fedora. Be aware with Fedora that it's more work than most distros to get proper media playback of certain codecs working, due to some sort of fear of patents. You have to replace a bunch of packages and it took me a while of messing around when I set up Fedora on an HTPC before I got the expected performance with various videos. I run Guix System on my personal machine, but it's pretty advanced and niche, so probably wouldn't recommend it to a new user.

yellow_lead•about 2 hours ago
I can't answer all of those but I personally prefer KDE to Gnome, and Fedora KDE or Kubuntu are the best. I like Fedora KDE.
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